Shetland Pony Thoroughbred Cross

[Jeff]

If you bred a shetland pony to a thoroughbred do you think the cross would make a faster bigger pony?

[ElPrado]

Breed a shetland mare to a Tbred stallion and she would probably die foaling. The foal would definitely be bigger. Probably too big for her to foal. Breed a shetland stallion to a Tbred mare and you would get something about the size of a cob, 13-14 or so hands. But you would need to build a ramp to get the stud high enough to reach her rear end.
Or, just go buy a Welsh cob and get the same thing.

[Jeff]

A.I. That's the way to go to breed a beautiful little sport pony using a shetland stud and TB mare

[diomed]

I did a painting for a friend of her show pony. He was a welsh pony/TB cross. He was just under 15h and a fantastic little show horse. He had the Welsh head but had TB lines in his conformation. That was my favorite painting to do. He was such a neat looking horse.

[bayrabicano]

I would imagine that you would get a clunker of a horse.

But, who would have thought that the shetland pony could be responsible for speed in today's thoroughbreds???

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2012/01/200.shtml

>>>>>>>>The thoroughbred industry can thank a single shetland pony mare that lived about 300 years ago for providing the breed's impressive speed, research suggests.


The genes of a single shetland pony mare gave the thoroughbred its speed, British researchers say.
Scientists have traced the origin of the so-called "speed gene" in thoroughbreds back to a single British mare that lived in the United Kingdom about 300 years ago.<<<<<<<<<<<

and...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 140105.htm

>>>>The study identified the Shetland breed as having the highest frequency of the C type gene variant. The Shetland represents local British horse types, which were the preeminent racing horses prior to the formal foundation of the Thoroughbred.

By comparing the diversity of the chromosomes around the C and T type gene variants researchers found only a single C type compared to 11 different T type gene variants, meaning that the 'speed gene' entered the Thoroughbred just once.<<<<<<<

[Pan Zareta]

>>>>The study identified the Shetland breed as having the highest frequency of the C type gene variant.

That study actually found the highest frequency of the C allele in the Quarter Horse. Among breeds they sampled that are regarded as native to the British Isles the Shetland had the highest frequency of the C allele. And fwiw, I doubt that the O/P intended this thread to be taken seriously.

[madelyn]

You might, though, get a frankenhorse.

[Sylvie Hebert]

I have been reading some of those posts here and notice that a lot of people take the name "thoroughbred" litterally. The thoroughbred is not a purebred per say.It is a type of horse that is issued from crossing different horses selected for their gait and speed over a certain distance. Nowadays it is more refined and we don't get much throwbacks but still not "pure".And do you remember the British jockey club did not accept our American bred horses for being impure...what a joke,theirs was not pure either.
And the quarter horse is also a type,and a very new one too. Many breed have participated in that cross,the main one being the thoroughbred,albeit in the beginnings the loosers and cheaper ones,since the owners of the best horses would never consider having their prized stud jump those common mares...

[ElPrado]

The thoroughbred has had a closed stud book for 300 years. There was a huge to do over even bringing back American TB's just because they had not been bred in England. Then even the English relented and accepted them into the breed.
The English still have trouble with the Royal family, but they recognize the TB's.

[Pan Zareta]

The thoroughbred has had a closed stud book for 300 years. There was a huge to do over even bringing back American TB's just because they had not been bred in England. Then even the English relented and accepted them into the breed.

There was little concern in the UK about American TBs until the number of them being exported to the UK exponentially increased during the early 20th cent. racing 'black-outs' in NorthAm. The surplus was affecting the value of the UK-breds. The Jersey Act (1913) was as much about counteracting that as about purifying the breed. But it was not retroactive. American blood already in the GSB stayed in the GSB. Otherwise, Nearco, Nasrullah, and many others would never have been GSB-eligible.

[Sylvie Hebert]

300 years in Europe but much less in America. And if you are an history buff you know that as close as 50 years ago horses and papers were switch.....And I still remember in the quarter horse in the 60's and 70's a big breeder I worked for getting his stud to jump some crossdraft mares and registring the foals.He was buying all the papers from Quarter horse mares going tru meat auctions here...

[xfactor fan]

There is a market of "Sport Ponies" Often breed from a small TB--remember not all TB's are 16+ hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_O%27Connor

Wiki link to Theodor O' Connor, sport pony.