Pedigree Analysis - 2001 Model

Epso's Mom · Postby **Epso's Mom** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:42 am

I have owned this mare for a bit over a year, she has been learning depsite her mid teens the rudiments of being riden, she is adapting well as she has a great mind. Also she is more physicaly fit and enjoys the attention.
She is a tough cockie, very clean legs, good hooves, never complains exept if work is unusual, likes to please and to maintain a stiff upper lip.
But as our plan was to breed and that her mind and movment is quite nice despite some comformation challenges. I would welcome the good the bad and the ugly about her pedigree, I would also ( as I am considering one perticular stallion who despite being registered as a warm blood has seattle slew quite close on his mothers side ) would like to know what the bad side that would be.

Thanks for any information:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/epic+song

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:37 pm

What are you going to do with the foal? Race, dressage, eventing?

Epso's Mom · Postby **Epso's Mom** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:33 pm

As I have no knowledge or contacts in the racing world unless someone where to tell me she is amazingly well bred for racing ( in todays world) I have to say I would like to go for a nice hunter type capable of doing some dressage. Racehorse does not scream out at you when looking at her she is bulky through the shoulder, stouter legs and I often get asked if she is PRE or a mix with that king of breed.

Her jump is cute ( even tight knees) but she has never been trained ... therefore looking at her to find a possible eventer is a longshot... as she will not jump naturally, or go to a jump, she will always stop and trot over.

All I really would like to know is what her pedigree looks like for a sport horse... even low level.

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:05 pm

You might try to contact Donna over at True Colours farm. She's breeding sport horses, and stands a lovely stallion.

Tappiano · Postby **Tappiano** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:47 am

There are tons over on COTS.... sport horse breeding section. Share pictures you'll get tons of feedback

Epso's Mom · Postby **Epso's Mom** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:34 pm

Thank you both, as for COTH I read the forum but am a bit timid at getting blasted... as the few times I have posted that was the reaction.
I will contact Donna even if breeding to her stallion is probably out of the question as the distance would be onerous for live cover and I have a few possible woarmbloods in my area I might think of breeding to.... but they are so big I do not want a foal that will grow to 17 hands. The one I like has Seattle Slew close on the dam line and I am a bit affraid of putting more Slew with my mare as I want to be able to ride the horse one day and I am affraid of making the foal too hot.
As for conformation we are looking for a longer neck and shorter back.

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:35 pm

If you aren't worried about producing a registered TB, then it opens up all sorts of AI options, including stallions that are too far away for live cover.
Good luck.

Sylvie Hebert · Postby **Sylvie Hebert** » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:01 am

If you are in Quebec check Carpe Demon he is at Helene Beland farm(the one that had the barn fie) in Calixa Lavallee.He is a 10 mover,very well made extremely nice tempered and throws excellent hunter type foals.She even bred him to horrible mares and he delivered a beautiful foal every single time.I am not sure she wants to stand him to the public but tell her I sent you,might help.And I have tons of pictures if him in my computers if needed.

Joltman · Postby **Joltman** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:42 am

Well, as indicated above her TB pedigree doesn't scream racing success, but then her pedigree sires are decent a couple generations back. Someone with a stallion with Ballade (from Devil His Due, St. Ballado etc) who look to add more Herbager might be of mild interest to someone so inclined. Especially someone with a new stallion who just wanted foals on the ground with a shot at doing something. The value might be there if she produced an outstanding looker.

Am curious why someone would export Akado to Wales???

jm

Sylvie Hebert · Postby **Sylvie Hebert** » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:05 am

I don't think that they are breeding to race but to ride,considering the area and the mare it certainly not for racing

vineyridge · Postby **vineyridge** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:09 pm

True Colours Farms produces colored horses, not performers; I've done a complete study on the horses registered with the USET for her main stallion and none have had a performance except for one children's 1/2 QH jumper.

I personally would not double Seattle Slew for a performance horse. So far that just hasn't worked. There is a California breeder who stands a SS grandson, and she is a disaster to work with. Read the COTH breeding forum. If you are going to be breeding for sport, you want to stick to reputable stallion owners.

Epso's Mom · Postby **Epso's Mom** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:49 am

Thanks VineyRidge much obliged for your research, I have contacted Akado's owner in the past they are breeding him for steeplechasers from what I have deduced, I do not know how to research his progeny in the UK.
I was also real hesitant, despite conformation that could work adding SS to the mix...
Sport horse is what I am going for... she has a real cute jump... even if she will not volunteer to do it on her own... but that might be a mind thing.
I will follow up on your sugestion Joltman.

I will explore the Tb file as Sylvie Hebert has sugested we have some potentials in Quebec...