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Postby Pan Zareta » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:59 pm

Americus.
Bred on the success of the Lexington/*Glencoe cross. SW on both sides of the Atlantic. Sire of blue hen dam Americus' Girl whose descendants in tail female include many of the most influential sires of the 20th century.

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Postby Barcaldine » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:32 am

JEWEL'S REWARD:

Champion 2 year old, tremendously talented, died of colic at four.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/jewels+reward

His sire was a non-winner in six starts; his dam was unraced.

Note the inbreeding of his sire, too.

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Postby Pan Zareta » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:22 am

Quiet American. Thank you Dr. Fager and Cequillo.

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Postby Georgerz » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Jewel's Reward: his dam was broodmare of the year in 1957, so no slouch.

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Postby Barcaldine » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:41 pm

She was voted BOTY only because of Jewels Reward. She wasn't exactly MISTY MORN!

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Postby Jeff » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:58 pm

http://www.pedigreequery.com/don+alberto3

4X4 Sex balanced line breeding, Les Brinsfield's favorite.

Still holds the GG track record for 1 mile turf course.

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Postby Pan Zareta » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:18 pm

Coup de Folie, dam of Machiavellian and two other G1SW.

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Postby Bettina » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:40 am

here is a "Shortlist" of German Derby winners, most out of memeory, which were closely inbred.
I will start with the earliest one.
Hello from Germany,
because it's "German Derby Day"
here's a "shortlist" of inbred winners.

Landgraf 2 x 4 Sterling
Fels 3 x 4 Hermit
Ferro 3 x 4 Dorothea/Energy FB/FS
Alchimist 3 x 3 Ard Patrick
Schwarzgold 3 x 4 Dark Ronald (filly)
Magnat 4 x 4 Dark Ronald
Orsini 2 x 3 Athanasius + 4 x 4 x 5 Laland
Allasch 3 x 3 Wallenstein
Neckar 4 x 4 Dark Ronald + 4 x 4 Aversion
Mangon 3 x 3 Grollenicht/Graf Ferry (FB/FS) + 4 x 4 Pergolese
Lustige 4 x 4 Dark Ronald (filly)
Lando 3 x 3 Literat/Liberty (FB/FS)
Adlerflug 3 x 4 ND + 4 x 4 Mill Reef

Certainly there more inbred Derby Winners, that's what I could see in a short time.

Best regards, Bettina

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Postby Barcaldine » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:25 am

Today's German Derby winner: LUCKY SPEED

http://www.pedigreequery.com/lucky+speed

Bettina, you may be interested to know that SPIRIT OF EAGLES (the dam of SILVANO, sire of LUCKY SPEED and so many other German SW's) was a California-bred mare who last raced at Turf Paradise in Arizona for a $3,000 claiming price. In my book she certainly didn't have the pedigree to merit exportation to Germany but it's obvious someone else did--much to their credit. The only possible explanation I can offer (more a guess than a reason) is that her sire (Cal-bred BEAU'S EAGLE) was a son of *GOLDEN EAGLE, who in turn was by the great stayer RIGHT ROYAL II. Perhaps a German breeder wanted some of that blood to cross onto his stock.

Do you have any notion why such a mare would have been brought half-way around the world?
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Postby Sysonby » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:42 am

Pull up any major Boussac winner and the pedigrees light up like Christmas trees:

Djeddah

http://www.pedigreequery.com/djeddah

Galcador

http://www.pedigreequery.com/galcador

Coronation

http://www.pedigreequery.com/coronation

Apollonia

http://www.pedigreequery.com/apollonia2

and his lead was followed by others

Hugh Lupus

http://www.pedigreequery.com/hugh+lupus

Clarion

http://www.pedigreequery.com/clarion

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Postby Pan Zareta » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:50 pm

Bromus 1905, dam of the great Phalaris. 2S x 3d to the sprinter Springfield, an additional cross of his grandsire Stockwell and another cross of Stockwell's dam Pochontas via King Tom.

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Postby Barcaldine » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:43 am

MY CHARMER, dam of SEATTLE SLEW and LOMOND:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/my+charmer

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Postby Jeff » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Barcaldine wrote:MY CHARMER, dam of SEATTLE SLEW and LOMOND:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/my+charmer


And Seattle Dancer