Back to Pedigree Query
It is currently Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:11 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: inbreeding to storm cat
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:25 am 
Offline
Weanling

Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:06 pm
Posts: 43
Location: texas
Friends:
I'm sure this has been a topic of discussion before on this board but i cant research it through the search feature very well and would appreciate opinions by others who may have the current dope...
The conventional wisdom seems to be not to inbreed to Storm Cat . I have a mare out of a decent family, whose sire is the underrated Lion Heart (still in Turkey?)....She wasn't so much as runner as we were always trying to hold her together.... she carried a flaw of her Dam ( turned in left front) but was an honest claimer at the lower levels in Louisiana.

I am considering breeding her to Half Ours which would give me Storm Cat 3x4 in the center of the pedigree. The Half Ours foals I've seen are muscular , smart and generally sound. This would give her three strains of Mr. P in the 5th gen.

Any thought on having Storm Cat 3x4?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:03 am 
Offline
Moderator

Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 6:11 am
Posts: 1176
Location: KY
Searching the database here shows about a 5.5 percent black type in the progeny inbred 5x5 or closer. I don't believe all progeny make it into our database.

_________________
Give the Pope and the King of England a horse and in thirty days, they'll be stealing halters.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:17 pm 
Offline
Allowance Winner

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:50 pm
Posts: 447
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
In that exact position of storm Cat as it would appear in the hypothetical, the full data according to Equineline stats is

15 starters
9 Winners
2 SW

Both the stakes winners are by Speightstown.

You do realize that the actual racing talent of the mare will have more influence on the outcome than any clever pattern that you might think of don't you?

_________________
Byron Rogers
Performance Genetics
http://performancegenetics.com
Keen Ice...Verrazano...Fontiton...Divisidero...Breaking Lucky...Hoss Amor...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:48 am 
Offline
Grade I Winner
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:54 am
Posts: 1595
+1 Byron stop before you say too much most people can't handle the plain and simple truth.

_________________
Edited by Moderator


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:56 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:53 pm
Posts: 9511
Location: Louisville, KY
I would have to question the wisdom of breeding a crooked mare to ANYTHING by Unbridled's Song but most especially to the particularly fragile Half Ours. That is the glaring factor, Storm Cat crossings are the red herring here.

_________________
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 pm 
Offline
Restricted Stakes Winner

Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:19 pm
Posts: 771
Location: canada
[quote="madelyn"]I would have to question the wisdom of breeding a crooked mare to ANYTHING by Unbridled's Song but most especially to the particularly fragile Half Ours. That is the glaring factor, Storm Cat crossings are the red herring here.[/quote]

And successful inbreeding is "superior individuals" so just think for a minute

_________________
The sport and industry survive not only because of the champions that are remembered forever but also because of the losers that are so easy to forget...


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group