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Mirror Image 28

Postby touching » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:25 am

So I have written under the title of Second Part of Mirror Image 27 which can be read on my own dedicated websire called Similar Evolution that I noticed that three of the leading sires of the 1970s early 1980s that were called Monalee Champion http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=154442 Spectre http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=218720 and The Grand Silver http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?z=ZuepJ ... &x=31&y=13 all had the same paternal grandsire a greyhound called Hi There http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=101265.
Those same three greyhound sires also had the same maternal great grandsire a greyhound called Champion Prince http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?z=ZuepJ ... &x=36&y=11 so I made both Hi There and Champion Prince my first Specific Starting Points or animals that I think of as being at the start or the at the beginning of a sire line or sire lines.
The definition of the word symmetry is “the quality of being made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis” one of the most beautiful examples of this in nature is the wings of a butterfly.
So something symmetrical has similar parts facing each other, well pedigrees on the page are read from left to right and they also have similar parts facing each other, one part being the sire’s side of the pedigree which occupies the top half of the pedigree on the page and the other part being the dam’s side of the pedigree which occupies the bottom half of the pedigree on the page.
These two parts the sire’s side of the pedigree and the dam’s side of the pedigree could be thought of as being symmetrical or similar to each other in the sense that if you travel back one generation there is one ancestor on the sire’s side of the pedigree and one ancestor on the dam’s side, go back
two generations and there are two ancestors on the sires side of the pedigree and two ancestors on the dam’s side and the ancestors keep doubling up for every generation you travel back.
So whenever I have studied the pedigrees of racehorses and racing greyhounds I have always looked possibly subconsciously for signs of symmetry.
Symmetry is what I found when I looked at the pedigree of Hi There but it was not until late 2006 when I made a brilliant breakthrough before I could see the same symmetry in the pedigree of a racehorse but there was a problem.
Well I could see the same symmetry that I saw in the pedigree of the racing greyhound Hi There in the pedigree of the thoroughbred Northern Dancer but the problem was that to see this symmetry one had to remove Native Dancer and Polynesian from Northern Dancer’s pedigree.
Unfortunately this would be unacceptable to most people for instance who had ever heard of anybody removing any stallion from any pedigree of any animal to further their aims, so next I shall show the pedigrees of Hi There, Rare Record and Bella’s Prince as aids so that I can explain better the symmetry than was present.
I am going to show this again as it is so important and actually is my only way forward.

HI THERE (born August 1952)

(4)
(3) Red Robin
Dee Chime (4)
(2) Maid Marian
Rare Record (4)
(3) Mount Mahon Cutlet
Olympic Cutlet
(1) Turkey Tanner
Slaney Record
Carlhan Hero
Gay Brigade
Armed Escort
Honey Gale
Gale Side Silver
Lady of the Gale
Judy is Generous


(4)
(3) Meadow Fescue
Castledown Lad (4)
(2) Tender Cutlet
Bella’s Prince (4)
(3) Bella’s Brother
Bella’s Witch
(1) Noted Witch
Dublin Red
Tallboy
Running Riot
Rack and Ruin
Keep Riot
Gay Brigade
Gay Lavelle
La Lavelle

RARE RECORD (born Jan 1940) (2)

(6)
(5) Staff Officer
Latto
(4) Just Coming
Red Robin
Half Nelson
Red Rosetta
(3) Hirstlark
Dee Chime
(5) Beaded Brow
Jamie
(4) Jibstay
Dicentra
Hopsack
Dinara
Dolabra


(6)
(5) Jamie
Mutton Cutlet
(4) Miss Cinderella
Mount Mahon Cutlet
Sunny Land
Mount Mahon Lass
(3) Nancy xx
Olympic Cutlet
Kashmir Kernal
Rattleaway
Cherry Hawk 11
Turkey Tanner
Wooden Bridge 11
Rare Star
Rising Star 11

BELLAS PRINCE (born Aug 1941) (2)

(6)
(5) Staff Officer
Melksham Tom
(4) Melksman Neillie
Meadow Fescue
Beaded Dick
Karagan
(3) One Drop
Castledown Lad (6)
(5) Jamie
Mutton Cutlet
(4) Miss Cinderella
Tender Cutlet
Kashmir Kernal
Got the Turn
Glenreagh


(6)
(5) Jamie
Mutton Cutlet
(4) Miss Cinderella
Bellas Brother
Melksham Tom
Burette
(3) Rigadoon
Bella’s Witch
Red Robin
Rum Ration
Burletta
Noted Witch
Deemstar
Loveable
Neva

So what symmetry can I see in the pedigree of Hi There, well for starters one can see that a greyhound called Staff Officer is 6 - removes back along Hi There’s parental sire line and also Staff Officer is 6 - removes back along Hi There’s maternal sire line.
Also you can see that a greyhound called Rare Record is 2 - removes back along Hi There’s parental sire line and a greyhound called Bellas Prince is 2 - removes back along his maternal sire line, so let’s concentrate on both their pedigrees.
Now on looking at the pedigree of Rare Record one could assume that if Jamie had of been 3 - removes back along the maternal sire line of Dee Chime instead of being the 2 - removes back that he actually is then Jamie would have occupied the exact same two positions 4 - removes back in the pedigree of Rare Record that he occupies 4 - removes back in the pedigree of Bellas Prince remember also that Staff Officer can be found 4 - removes back along both the parental sire lines of Rare Record and Bellas Prince, remember also that Staff Officer can be found 4 - removes back along both the parental sire lines of Rare Record and Bellas Prince.
Remember if one is referring to the pedigree of Hi There then one could also write that if Jamie had of been 3 - removes back along the maternal sire line of Dee Chime instead of being the 2 - removes back that he actually is then Jamie would have occupied the exact same two positions 6 - removes back along the parental sire line of Hi There that he also occupies 6 - removes back along the maternal sire line of Hi There.
Next I shall show the pedigrees of Northern Dancer minus the stallions Native Dancer and Polynesian of course and also the pedigrees of Nearco and Unbreakable also as aids so that I can explain better the same symmetry present in Northern Dancer’s pedigree than I also found in the pedigree of Hi There during the 1970s on my own dedicated website called Similar Evolution under the title of Second part of Mirror image 28.
So clicking the number 27 will bring up Mirror Image 27 and clicking 28 will bring up the second part of mirror image 28, obviously clicking home brings you back to the homepage.