Ahonoora and Habitat/Sir Gaylord

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Ahonoora and Habitat/Sir Gaylord

Postby Elles » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:05 am

Are these horses that are useful for sport (show jumping, dressage)?

I am asking this question because of this yearling TB colt:
As a foal:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-L6NETTFS.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZLQMMQSK.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-TSC667XT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-7Y3ZJ4RP.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-Z48ZKQLE.jpg
His sire:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-ZFIRXHXK.jpg
His dam:
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-NWDT4YUV.jpg
He is 12,5% Ahonoora and 8.6% Sir Gaylord. His sire is 25% Ahonoora and 12.5% Habitat. His dam is 9.4% Sir Gaylord.
This is his female family: http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Families/Family2e.htm
And his sire line goed back to: http://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/Tourbillon.html

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Postby erins isle » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:48 am

Does he have a name and otherwise the names of his sire and dam? Then people can look them up.

Maybe you can ask KWPN forums in Holland?
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Pedigree

Postby hpkingjr » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:03 pm

Give the Pope and the King of England a horse and in thirty days, they'll be stealing halters.

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Postby Elles » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:17 am

Thank you hpkingjr.

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Postby Elles » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:46 am

Are Danzig, Forlì and red ransom soft lines?

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Postby Elles » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:16 am

O well, it does not matter so much anymore what you say about him. I already bought him almost two weeks ago. So it is already too late, I am stuck with him :D :wink:

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Postby Pan Zareta » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:09 pm

Elles wrote:O well, it does not matter so much anymore what you say about him. I already bought him almost two weeks ago. So it is already too late, I am stuck with him :D :wink:


Congratulations, Elles. I think you made a wise decision. :D

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Postby Elles » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:33 pm

Thank you Pan Zareta!
When I had had a look at him, his dam, a full sister (born this year) and an other yearling colt by the same sire he shared his pasture with I was hooked :D. He was so well behaved and sweet and so good looking and so were the other horses.

Linebreeding:
AHONOORA 4S x 4S22 (2) (0)12.50% 4x4 13.45%
SIR GAYLORD 6S x 7S x 6S x 5d x 6D 5 4 (3) (1) 8.59% 5x5 9.87%
NORTHERN DANCER 6S x 4D 2 2 (2) (0) 7.81% 5x5 9.69%
NEARCO 10S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 10S x 9S x 9s x 8S x 8s x 6D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 8D x 10D x 8D x 9D 21 8 (5) (3) 6.25% 5x5 4.79%*
HABITAT 5s x 5S 2 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 9.98%
TURN-TO 7S x 8S x 7S x 6D x 7D x 7D 6 2 (2) (0) 5.08% 5x6 6.53%
NEARCTIC 7S x 5D x 7d 3 2 (1) (1) 4.69% 5x6 6.49%
FAIR TRIAL 9S x 9s x 9S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 9s x 9S x 9s x 10S x 9S x 7D x 9d x 8D x 8D x 8D 16 8 (5) (3) 4.39% 6x6 4.39%*
COURT MARTIAL 8s x 8s x 7s x 8s x 8s x 9s x 7d x 7D 8 6 (1) (5) 4.10%6x6 5.27%
PHAROS 10S x 10S x 9S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 9S x 7D x 9D x 9d x 9d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10d 27 4 (2) (2) 4.10% 6x6 1.07%*
TOM FOOL 5D x 7d 2 2 (1) (1) 3.91% 6x6 4.57%
HYPERION 10s x 9S x 9s x 9s x 10s x 9S x 7d x 9D x 9d x 9D x 7D x 8d x 8D 13 9 (6) (3) 3.91% 6x6 3.52%*
SELENE 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 8s x 8D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 10D x 9D x 9D 23 4 (3) (1) 3.61% 6x6 0.00%*
PHALARIS 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 8D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 8D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D 29 5 (5) (0) 3.61% 6x6 0.00%*
GAINSBOROUGH 10S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 8D x 9d x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 10d x 9D x 10d x 10D x 9D 24 8 (5) (3) 3.42% 6x6 0.20%*
DJEBEL 8S x 8S x 8S x 7s x 8S x 7D x 9D 7 4 (3) (1) 3.32% 6x6 3.52%
TEDDY 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 9D x 10D x 8D x 8d x 10d x 10d x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D 23 10 (6) (4) 3.22% 6x6 1.32%*


AHONOORA H, 1975 DP = 4-4-2-0-2 (12) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.67

Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
ST SIMON 9S x 10s x 9s x 8S x 8S x 8s x 8s x 10s x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9s x 10s x 10S x 10S x 9s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10s x 9s x 8S x 10s x 8S x 8d x 10d x 9D x 10D x 10d x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 9D x 9d x 10d x 10d x 8D x 10D x 10d x 9D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10d x 9d x 10D 55 20 (10) (10) 9.18% 5x5 9.28%*
SWYNFORD 5s x 7S x 7S x 7D x 7d x 7d 6 4 (1) (3) 7.03% 5x5 9.76%
FAIR TRIAL 5D x 5d 2 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 10.13%
PHALARIS 6S x 7S x 7S x 7D x 7D x 7D x 7D 7 4 (4) (0) 6.25% 5x5 9.28%
GALOPIN 10S x 9s x 9s x 10s x 10S x 9S x 10s x 9s x 9s x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9s x 10S x 9S x 10s x 9S x 10d x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D 44 11 (2) (9) 5.66% 5x6 2.75%*
CANTERBURY PILGRIM 8S x 6S x 9S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 8S x 8D x 9D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 8D 14 2 (2) (0) 5.47% 5x6 5.62%
BLANDFORD 6S x 6s x 6D 3 3 (2) (1) 4.69% 5x6 9.15%
COLORADO 5s x 6D 2 2 (1) (1) 4.69% 5x6 10.96%
HAMPTON 9S x 10S x 9S x 9s x 9s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10d 35 6 (4) (2) 4.39% 6x6 4.74%*
POLYMELUS 7S x 8S x 8S x 8D x 8d x 8D x 8D x 8d x 8D x 8D 10 4 (2) (2) 4.30% 6x6 6.43%
MARCO 9S x 9S x 6s x 7S x 8S x 8D x 9D x 8d 8 4 (3) (1) 4.10% 6x6 4.10%
CYLLENE 8S x 7S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9D x 9D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 9D x 9D 16 4 (4) (0) 4.00% 6x6 4.15%*
MARCHETTA 5s x 7d 2 2 (0) (2) 3.91% 6x6 5.19%
BAY RONALD 8S x 9s x 8S x 8S x 8d x 9D x 9D x 9d x 8D x 9D x 9D x 8d x 9D x 9D 14 5 (3) (2) 3.91% 6x6 5.59%
ALCANTARA2 5S x 7d 2 2 (1) (1) 3.91% 6x6 4.30%
CHAUCER 7s x 8s x 8S x 7s x 8d x 8d x 8d x 8d 8 5 (1) (4) 3.91% 6x6 9.40%
TEDDY 7s x 6D x 6D 3 3 (2) (1) 3.91% 6x6 5.06%
HURRY ON 6s x 6d x 7d 3 3 (0) (3) 3.91% 6x6 5.35%
HERMIT 10S x 10S x 10s x 8S x 8s x 8S x 10s x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10s x 9D x 9d x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D 27 13 (5) (8) 3.81% 6x6 1.39%*
ISINGLASS 8s x 7S x 9S x 10s x 9S x 8s x 9D x 9d x 9d x 9D x 9D x 10d x 9d 13 5 (1) (4) 3.32% 6x6 3.74%*
ST ANGELA 10S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D 25 2 (1) (1) 3.22% 6x6 0.00%*
FRIARS DAUGHTER 6s x 6S 2 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 6.72%
BAYARDO 7S x 7S x 8D x 8D x 8D x 8d 6 3 (2) (1) 3.13% 6x6 5.63%
MANNA 6S x 6d 2 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 8.88%
GAY CRUSADER 6s x 6s 2 2 (0) (2) 3.13% 6x6 5.92%



Horse: habitat

HABITAT H, 1966 DP = 13-14-13-4-2 (46) DI = 2.68 CD = 0.70

Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
PLUCKY LIEGE 5S x 4D 2 2 (2) (0) 9.38% 4x5 10.96%
SWYNFORD 8S x 6s x 4D 3 3 (2) (1) 8.20% 5x5 8.79%
TEDDY 6s x 4D 2 2 (1) (1) 7.81% 5x5 9.35%
ST SIMON 9s x 8S x 8S x 9s x 9S x 10S x 9S x 7s x 9s x 8S x 9s x 8S x 9s x 8s x 9S x 9S x 10S x 6d x 7d x 8D 20 14 (8) (6) 7.42% 5x5 6.54%*
GALOPIN 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 8S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 9s x 10S x 10s x 9S x 8s x 10s x 9s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 9d x 8d x 9D x 7D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 10d x 9d x 9d 38 11 (3) (8) 7.32% 5x5 2.17%*
PHAROS 5S x 5s 2 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 9.10%
SPEARMINT 7s x 6s x 5d 3 2 (0) (2) 5.47% 5x6 5.55%
ISINGLASS 10S x 10s x 8S x 8s x 7s x 6D x 8D x 7d x 7D 9 6 (2) (4) 5.27% 5x6 3.56%*
HERMIT 10S x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10S x 9S x 9s x 9S x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 8d x 10d x 7D x 8d x 10d x 9d x 9d x 8d 31 15 (4) (11) 5.18% 5x6 2.49%*
ISONOMY 10s x 10S x 10s x 9s x 10s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 8S x 9s x 10s x 9s x 8S x 10s x 7D x 7D x 9D x 8D x 8D 19 7 (3) (4) 4.98% 5x6 2.44%*
CANTERBURY PILGRIM 8S x 9S x 8S x 7S x 5D 5 2 (2) (0) 4.88% 5x6 5.27%
HAMPTON 9s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 9s x 9s x 10S x 9S x 8s x 9S x 10S x 9S x 7D x 8D x 8d x 9d x 9D x 8D 18 7 (4) (3) 4.59% 6x6 4.71%*
BEND OR 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 9s x 10S x 9s x 10S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 9s x 9s x 9D x 7d x 9d x 8d x 10D x 8d x 8D x 10D 21 11 (4) (7) 4.49% 6x6 3.32%*
AJAX 8s x 7S x 5D 3 2 (1) (1) 4.30% 6x6 4.88%
ST ANGELA 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 8S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9d x 7D x 8D x 9D x 10d 21 2 (1) (1) 4.00% 6x6 0.10%*
LORD CLIFDEN 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 8D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D 25 4 (3) (1) 3.61% 6x6 0.10%*
SUNDRIDGE 7s x 8s x 7S x 7s x 7D 5 4 (1) (3) 3.52% 6x6 4.76%
FLYING FOX 9S x 8S x 8S x 6D x 7d 5 3 (2) (1) 3.32% 6x6 3.32%
POLYMELUS 7S x 7S x 6S x 9S 4 3 (3) (0) 3.32% 6x6 4.93%
STOCKWELL 10S x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 9D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9d x 8d x 9d x 10d x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10d x 10d 25 11 (6) (5) 3.32% 6x6 0.29%*
PILGRIMAGE 9s x 10s x 9S x 9s x 8s x 9D x 6d x 8D 8 2 (1) (1) 3.22% 6x6 3.22%*
OGDEN 6d x 6D 2 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 3.86%
SUNSTAR 6S x 6D 2 2 (2) (0) 3.13% 6x6 5.40%
BAY RONALD 8S x 8S x 8S x 8s x 6d 5 3 (2) (1) 3.13% 6x6 4.75%
NEWMINSTER 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 9d x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D 23 5 (4) (1) 3.13% 6x6 0.29%*


SIR GAYLORD H, 1959 DP = 18-16-6-4-6 (50) DI = 2.85 CD = 0.72

Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
PHAROS 4S x 4s 2 2 (1) (1) 12.50% 4x4 16.07%
ST SIMON 8s x 7S x 7S x 8s x 8S x 9S x 8S x 6s x 8s x 7S x 8s x 7D x 8d x 7d x 8D x 8D x 9D 17 14 (8) (6) 9.38% 4x5 9.18%*
GALOPIN 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 8s x 9S x 9s x 9S x 7S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8D x 9D x 8d x 8d x 9D x 9d x 8D x 7d x 9d x 8d x 9D x 9d x 9D x 9d 26 10 (2) (8) 8.01% 5x5 2.59%*
POLYMELUS 6S x 6S x 5D x 8D 4 3 (3) (0) 6.64% 5x5 8.68%
CYLLENE 7S x 6s x 7S x 7D x 6D x 9D 6 3 (2) (1) 5.66% 5x6 5.86%*
SUNDRIDGE 6s x 7s x 6S x 6d 4 4 (1) (3) 5.47% 5x6 6.79%
HERMIT 9S x 9S x 9s x 9s x 9S x 9s x 9s x 9S x 9S x 8S x 8s x 8S x 9d x 9d x 9d x 9d x 8d x 9D x 9d x 9d x 9d x 9d x 9d 23 13 (4) (9) 5.27% 5x6 1.86%*
ISONOMY 9s x 9S x 9s x 8s x 9s x 8S x 8D x 9d x 7D x 8d x 9d x 8d x 7D x 9d 14 7 (3) (4) 4.88% 5x6 1.37%*
ST ANGELA 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 7S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8D x 9D x 9d x 8D x 9D x 9D 16 2 (1) (1) 4.69% 5x6 0.20%*
SPEARMINT 6s x 5s 2 2 (0) (2) 4.69% 5x6 4.76%
HAMPTON 8s x 8S x 8S x 9s x 8s x 8d x 9D x 8D x 7d x 8D x 9D x 8D 12 4 (2) (2) 4.49% 6x6 4.74%*
BEND OR 9S x 9s x 9S x 8S x 8s x 9S x 8d x 9D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 8d x 8d 13 8 (3) (5) 3.91% 6x6 2.15%*
SWYNFORD 7S x 5s 2 2 (1) (1) 3.91% 6x6 4.79%
SPRINGFIELD 8S x 9s x 8s x 9s x 8s x 8S x 9s x 9d x 8D x 8d x 8d x 8d 12 5 (1) (4) 3.91% 6x6 3.91%*
ISINGLASS 9S x 9s x 7S x 7d x 6d 5 4 (1) (3) 3.52% 6x6 2.44%*
WHITE EAGLE 8s x 5d 2 2 (0) (2) 3.52% 6x6 3.52%
CANTERBURY PILGRIM 7S x 8S x 7S x 6S 4 2 (2) (0) 3.52% 6x6 3.71%
AMPHION 7S x 8S x 7S x 7D x 7d 5 2 (1) (1) 3.52% 6x6 3.52%
BAYARDO 6S x 6D 2 2 (2) (0) 3.13% 6x6 5.20%
BAY RONALD 7S x 7D x 7D x 7d 4 3 (2) (1) 3.13% 6x6 4.81%
BONA VISTA 8S x 8s x 7S x 8S x 8D x 7D 6 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 3.22%

TURN-TO H, 1951 DP = 24-10-9-3-14 (60) DI = 1.79 CD = 0.45



Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
PHAROS 3S x 3d 2 2 (1) (1) 25.00% 3x3 30.44%
ST SIMON 7s x 6S x 6S x 7s x 7S x 9s x 8S x 7D x 5d x 7d x 6D x 7d 12 9 (5) (4) 13.09% 4x4 15.23%
GALOPIN 8S x 7S x 10s x 9s x 7S x 10s x 9s x 8S x 9s x 9S x 7s x 8S x 8s x 10S x 9s x 10S x 9S x 10s x 9s x 10S x 8D x 6D x 8D x 7D x 10d x 9d x 8D 27 9 (2) (7) 9.67% 4x5 10.30%*
SPEARMINT 5s x 4d 2 2 (0) (2) 9.38% 4x5 11.04%
SWYNFORD 6S x 4d 2 2 (1) (1) 7.81% 5x5 13.58%
SUNDRIDGE 5s x 6s x 5D 3 3 (1) (2) 7.81% 5x5 11.16%
STOCKWELL 10S x 10s x 9S x 9s x 10S x 9s x 9s x 10s x 9s x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 10s x 10S x 9S x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 9D x 9d x 9D x 9D x 9d x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 10d x 9D x 9d x 10D x 9d x 9d x 9d x 8d x 9D 43 14 (7) (7) 7.42% 5x5 5.52%*
HERMIT 9s x 8S x 8S x 8s x 8s x 8S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 8d x 8d x 9d x 8D x 8D x 7D x 7d x 7D 21 11 (4) (7) 7.13% 5x5 7.13%*
CANTERBURY PILGRIM 6S x 7S x 6D x 5D 4 2 (2) (0) 7.03% 5x5 9.71%
NEWMINSTER 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 9S x 9S x 9s x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 9d x 9D x 10D x 9D x 10d x 9D x 10D x 8d x 8D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 10D x 8D x 8D 38 7 (4) (3) 6.84% 5x5 3.66%*
ST ANGELA 8S x 7S x 7S x 10s x 8S x 8S x 10S x 9S x 8D x 6D x 8D x 7D x 8D 13 2 (1) (1) 6.64% 5x5 7.08%*
CYLLENE 6S x 5d x 6D 3 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 8.98%
VEDETTE 9S x 8S x 10S x 8S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 8S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 9d x 9D x 7D x 9D x 8D x 10D x 9D x 8D 27 3 (2) (1) 5.76% 5x6 6.10%*
POCAHONTAS 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 8D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D 46 4 (4) (0) 5.47% 5x6 0.63%*
KING TOM 10s x 9s x 8s x 8s x 9s x 9S x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10S x 9d x 9d x 8D x 7d x 10d x 9d x 8d x 9d x 9D 19 5 (3) (2) 4.59% 6x6 4.20%*
LORD CLIFDEN 8S x 9S x 10S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 8D x 9D x 7D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 9D 16 3 (3) (0) 4.30% 6x6 5.13%*
PILGRIMAGE 7s x 8s x 7D x 7d x 6d 5 2 (1) (1) 4.30% 6x6 5.03%
SPRINGFIELD 7S x 8s x 7s x 8s x 7d x 7D x 8d 7 3 (1) (2) 4.30% 6x6 5.62%
HAMPTON 7s x 9S x 7S x 7S x 9S x 8d x 7d x 9D 8 4 (2) (2) 4.10% 6x6 5.64%
ISONOMY 8s x 8S x 8s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 9S x 9S x 7d x 8d x 7D 11 6 (3) (3) 4.00% 6x6 4.35%*
TOUCHSTONE 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10d x 10d x 9D x 9D x 10D 34 7 (4) (3) 3.91% 6x6 0.00%*
BONA VISTA 7S x 7s x 6D x 7D 4 2 (1) (1) 3.91% 6x6 5.62%
MACARONI 9s x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 9d x 8d x 8d x 7d x 9d x 9d x 10d x 8d 16 7 (0) (7) 3.71% 6x6 3.81%*
SANDA 7S x 7s x 8s x 7d x 7D 5 2 (1) (1) 3.52% 6x6 5.98%
BEND OR 8S x 10S x 8s x 9S x 8S x 7D x 7d x 8D 8 5 (3) (2) 3.42% 6x6 3.96%*
THE BARON 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D 31 2 (2) (0) 3.32% 6x6 0.00%*

FAIR TRIAL H, 1932 DP = 24-0-0-4-12 (40) DI = 1.50 CD = 0.50



Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
STOCKWELL 8S x 8s x 7S x 7s x 8S x 7s x 7s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 7D x 8d x 7D x 8d x 7D x 7d x 8D x 8d x 9d 19 13 (5) (8) 9.67% 4x5 12.35%*
ST SIMON 5s x 4S 2 2 (1) (1) 9.38% 4x5 12.80%
TOUCHSTONE 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 8S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 8S x 9s x 9S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 8S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 8D x 10D x 10d x 8D x 9d x 9D x 10d x 10d x 10D x 9D x 7d x 8D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 9D x 10d x 10D 42 13 (5) (8) 8.50% 5x5 4.42%*
GALOPIN 6S x 5S x 8s x 7s x 7D x 6D 6 5 (3) (2) 8.20% 5x5 9.58%
NEWMINSTER 9s x 8S x 7S x 8S x 7S x 7S x 8S x 9S x 7D x 7D x 7d x 7D x 8D x 8D x 9D 15 7 (5) (2) 8.01% 5x5 8.01%
POCAHONTAS 9S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 7S x 8S x 8S x 8S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 10D 28 3 (3) (0) 7.91% 5x5 8.01%*
SPRINGFIELD 5S x 6s x 5d 3 3 (1) (2) 7.81% 5x5 11.32%
HAMPTON 5s x 7S x 5D 3 3 (2) (1) 7.03% 5x5 11.22%
THE BARON 9S x 9S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 8S x 10S x 10S x 9s x 9D x 9d x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 10D 27 3 (2) (1) 6.93% 5x5 7.03%*
BIRDCATCHER 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 9S x 9s x 10S x 10S x 8s x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9s x 10s x 10S x 10D x 10d x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 9d x 9d x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9d x 9D x 9D x 10D x 9d x 9D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9d x 9D 40 8 (4) (4) 6.35% 5x5 3.08%*
HERMIT 7s x 6S x 6S x 6d x 7d 5 5 (2) (3) 6.25% 5x5 9.47%
SANDA 5S x 5d 2 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 12.10%
LORD CLIFDEN 6S x 7S x 8S x 6D x 7D 5 2 (2) (0) 5.08% 5x6 9.00%
MELBOURNE 10s x 10S x 8s x 8S x 9s x 8s x 9S x 9s x 10s x 8d x 10d x 8d x 9D x 9d x 9D x 8d x 8d x 9d x 9d x 10d x 9D 21 11 (3) (8) 4.98% 5x6 4.20%*
GLENCOE 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 9s x 9s x 10s x 8s x 9s x 9s x 9s x 10d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 8d x 9d x 10d x 8d x 10d 29 4 (0) (4) 4.88% 5x6 0.98%*
VEDETTE 7S x 6S x 9S x 8S x 8D x 7D x 7D 7 2 (2) (0) 4.88% 5x6 6.02%
SECLUSION 8S x 7S x 7S x 6d x 7D x 8D 6 2 (1) (1) 4.69% 5x6 4.69%
CAMEL 10S x 9S x 10S x 8s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 9D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D 30 5 (1) (4) 4.30% 6x6 0.98%*
BANTER 9s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 9D x 10d x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D 29 3 (1) (2) 4.10% 6x6 2.83%*
MARPESSA 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 9s x 9s x 10s x 8s x 9s x 9s x 9s x 10d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 10d 26 2 (0) (2) 3.91% 6x6 0.10%*
SULTAN 10S x 9s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 9S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 9d x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9D x 10D 30 4 (3) (1) 3.61% 6x6 1.61%*
RATAPLAN 8S x 8s x 7S x 10S x 8D x 8d x 7d x 8d 8 5 (2) (3) 3.61% 6x6 9.33%*
ORLANDO 10S x 9S x 8S x 9S x 9s x 7d x 9d x 8D x 8d x 8D 10 7 (3) (4) 3.22% 6x6 4.55%*
ION 10S x 8s x 7s x 9S x 9S x 9S x 9D x 8d x 10D x 8D x 9D x 10D 12 4 (2) (2) 3.22% 6x6 2.05%*
BLAIR ATHOL 6d x 6D 2 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 10.10%
VOLTAIRE 10s x 9s x 10s x 9S x 9s x 8S x 8s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 9d x 10D x 10d x 10d x 9D x 9d x 9D x 10d x 10D 19 4 (1) (3) 3.13% 6x6 2.98%*
ISONOMY 6s x 6D 2 2 (1) (1) 3.13% 6x6 6.77%



COURT MARTIAL H, 1942 DP = 28-0-4-2-16 (50) DI = 1.50 CD = 0.44



Horse Inbreeding Stats Crosses Lines Blood% Influence AGR
POLYMELUS 4S x 4d 2 2 (1) (1) 12.50% 4x4 15.99%
SAINFOIN 5s x 4d 2 2 (0) (2) 9.38% 4x5 14.52%
STOCKWELL 9S x 9s x 8S x 8s x 9S x 8s x 8s x 10S x 10S x 8S x 9s x 8S x 9s x 8S x 8s x 9S x 9s x 10s x 8D x 8d x 7D x 7d x 7D x 9d x 10D x 9D x 9D x 9d x 9d x 9D x 10D 31 16 (8) (8) 9.28% 5x5 9.28%*
ST SIMON 6s x 5S x 6D x 6D 4 4 (3) (1) 7.81% 5x5 10.33%
POCAHONTAS 10S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 8S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 9D 47 3 (3) (0) 7.81% 5x5 0.00%*
GALOPIN 7S x 6S x 9s x 8s x 8S x 7S x 8D x 6d x 7D x 7D 10 6 (3) (3) 7.62% 5x5 8.28%
NEWMINSTER 10s x 9S x 8S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 9S x 10S x 8S x 8S x 8s x 8S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9D x 7D x 7D x 8D x 8D x 10d x 10d x 9D x 8D x 9d 25 10 (6) (4) 7.52% 5x5 7.32%*
SPRINGFIELD 6S x 7s x 6s x 5D 4 3 (1) (2) 7.03% 5x5 9.45%
TOUCHSTONE 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 8s x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 10S x 9d x 10D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 9D x 10d x 8D x 8D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10d x 10D 42 13 (8) (5) 6.93% 5x5 3.32%*
THE BARON 10S x 10S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 9S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 10S x 9S x 10S x 10S x 9D x 9D x 8D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 9D x 8D x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D x 10D 43 3 (2) (1) 6.74% 5x5 0.29%*
HERMIT 8s x 7S x 7S x 7s x 8s x 6d x 6d x 8d 8 7 (2) (5) 6.64% 5x5 9.03%
HAMPTON 6s x 8S x 6S x 6D x 6d 5 3 (2) (1) 6.64% 5x5 9.63%
BAY RONALD 5S x 5D 2 2 (2) (0) 6.25% 5x5 10.93%
SANDA 6S x 6s x 5D 3 2 (1) (1) 6.25% 5x5 10.22%
BIRDCATCHER 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10s x 9s x 10S x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 10S x 10s x 10S x 8d x 10D x 9d x 9d x 10D x 9D x 9D x 10D x 9d x 9D x 10D x 9D x 10D x 9d x 10D x 10d x 10D x 10d x 10d 42 8 (3) (5) 5.27% 5x6 1.07%*
VEDETTE 8S x 7S x 10S x 9S x 9S x 8S x 8S x 7D x 9D x 7D x 8D x 8D 12 2 (2) (0) 4.98% 5x6 5.08%*
LORD CLIFDEN 7S x 8S x 9S x 7S x 8S x 7D x 7D x 7D 8 2 (2) (0) 4.88% 5x6 8.06%
THURIO 6s x 5d 2 2 (0) (2) 4.69% 5x6 6.32%
SECLUSION 9S x 8S x 8S x 7s x 8S x 9S x 7D x 7D x 9D 9 2 (1) (1) 4.10% 6x6 4.10%
RATAPLAN 9S x 9s x 8S x 9S x 9s x 8s x 9s x 7d x 8d x 8d x 9D x 9d x 9D x 9D 14 6 (2) (4) 4.10% 6x6 4.15%
MELBOURNE 9s x 9S x 10s x 9s x 10S x 10s x 9s x 9s x 10S x 10s x 10S x 9s x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10S x 8D x 8d x 9d x 9d x 10D x 10D x 9d x 9D 24 10 (3) (7) 4.00% 6x6 4.15%*
ORLANDO 10S x 9S x 10S x 10s x 8s x 10s x 9S x 9s x 9S x 8d x 8D x 7d x 10d x 10D 14 6 (2) (4) 3.32% 6x6 4.00%*
GLENCOE 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 10s x 9s x 10s x 9s x 10d x 10d x 9d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 9d x 10d x 10d x 10d 26 3 (0) (3) 3.22% 6x6 0.49%*
ISONOMY 7s x 7S x 7d x 7d 4 3 (1) (2) 3.13% 6x6 5.64%

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Postby Elles » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:30 am

With regard to his breeding, could I expect the colt to be any good as a race horse?
His sire did not do a thing on the track and neither did his dam. So not promising at all.

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Postby Pan Zareta » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:24 am

Elles wrote:With regard to his breeding, could I expect the colt to be any good as a race horse?
His sire did not do a thing on the track and neither did his dam. So not promising at all.

From pedigree alone, the best indicators of his racing potential are the closest ancestors. From that aspect things are, as you say, not promising. But the decision of whether he's worth the substantial investment required to prove his ability, whatever it may be, is one that only you can make. :wink:

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Postby Elles » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:48 am

You are right :D :? !
I want to make the right and best decision but it is hard to know what that is.

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Postby Elles » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:39 pm

At this moment in time I can not be absolutely certain that he has jumping ability. His sire has some ability to jump and a half sister is being trained for eventing and doing well but that does not give any guarantees. I am hoping he will be a jumper because of the fact that there are a number of horses in his pedigree that one can find in the pedigrees of eventers. In Germany I found an eventer xx with the bloodline of Ahonoora close by in his pedigree: http://www.trakehner-parforce.de/Sportp ... ubing.html But the strange thing is that I can not find anything about this horse after the year 2008.

http://www.saratogastud.co.za/htm/lady_killer.html
http://www.pedigreequery.com/discipliner (twice in Indian Ridge)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/cathedra (female line of Spirit Land)
In the female line of my colt: http://www.pedigreequery.com/fenny+rough

http://loadeddicestud.webs.com/solidmares.htm
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/condrieu
Court Martial and Furioso both have Hurry On and Son in Law.

http://barnmice.com/profiles/blogs/even ... n-be-led-2
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/sirepage ... d=10406608
http://www.scotlandaiservice.com/handsomestranger.htm
http://www.tbheritage.com/HistoricSires ... resBT.html
http://www.pedigreequery.com/concertino Important showjumping sire.
http://www.saltacaballos.com.ar/detalle ... _ficha=141

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Postby hpkingjr » Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:10 am

Nice old article with 60+ comments, you will see many of the horses in your pedigree mentioned http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/scot/arc ... orts.aspxr.
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