What is the prognosis? Fractured sesmoid?
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What is the prognosis? Fractured sesmoid?
Colt out of a friend of mines mare fractured a sesmaoid bone a couple months ago in his stall. What are the chances he'll come back? He had surgery and all chips are gone, he's still resting/hand-walking now. They hope to get him going again in spring 2005? What are the odds?
Sesamoids can and do heal, but they suffer from the problem of poor blood supply, and consequently they heal slowly. Some horses will heal very well and other horses will never heal. Many will appear to heal but have soundness issues when put into heavy training. You have to assess it on a horse by horse basis. On average I would consider the spring of 2005 to be somewhat optimistic, but then I don't have the horse in front of me telling me I'm wrong.
Seems like I read in Thoroughbred Times not too long ago that the full recovery prognosis for these things was about 25%, but that probably depends on exactly what got damaged.
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Go to your herb store and buy grape seed powder and feed 2oz. am 2oz. pm. Grape seed will improve the blood flow to the damaged area. Grape seed will also roto rooter your TB veins and artries and improve circulation. Buz our local farrier had 90 percent blockage of his artries. I told him about grape seed powder and 3 years later has only 15 percent blockage. Buz takes 5 250mg capsules daily.
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Are you certain Grapeseed powder/extract is good for horses? Some things that work great in humans are toxic to animals. Do you know a vet that recommends it? If not, I would surely check VERY carefully to be sure it would not harm the horse. It would sure be great to find a holistic vet that had a list of herbs, etc., to avoid with horses.
Are you certain Grapeseed powder/extract is good for horses? Some things that work great in humans are toxic to animals. Do you know a vet that recommends it? If not, I would surely check VERY carefully to be sure it would not harm the horse. It would sure be great to find a holistic vet that had a list of herbs, etc., to avoid with horses.
I had a colt fracture his medial sesamoid at 3, after taking 2nd in his 1st and only start. It was an incomplete fracture. He had surgery to repair the fracture, a pin was placed and the bone repaired completely. No suspensory damage at all. The horse was rehabbed a year, including HA, Adequan, Cosequin, IGF-1 shots directly into the joint, swimming, handwalking after full stall rest. The horse came back quite nicely, spent 17 weeks working up to his first breeze, and did well 3f in 36flat. However he came back from his work so sore, that it was decided to retire him. He is now a low level dressage horse.
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racehorse torn suspensories and fractured sesamoids in 2000.after rest one year,adequan,HA and plently of glucosamine/chondroitine back in training now very successful barrel horse.
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Let me ask my vet if grape seed powder is ok for TB, I'll post it later.
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I talked to our vet about a fractured sesamoid, he told me their is a product called Rapid Response. It increases blood flow to an injured area. I read the label and it has grape seed or procyannidins which is grape seed by another name. It also has glucosimine and chrondotrin. The web site is www. Amerdon.com I hope it helps if you purchase it, Good Luck.
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Re: FRACTURED SESAMOIDS
louis finochio wrote:I talked to our vet about a fractured sesamoid, he told me their is a product called Rapid Response. It increases blood flow to an injured area. I read the label and it has grape seed or procyannidins which is grape seed by another name. It also has glucosimine and chrondotrin. The web site is www. Amerdon.com I hope it helps if you purchase it, Good Luck.
Louis,
Which Vet told you about Rapid Response? I've been trying to find someone who has actually used it for some time.
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BJ
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I vowed that I will never again attempt to bring a horse with fractured sesamoids back to the races again. I had two that got this injury at the same time. I gave both of them a year off before starting them back into training. One of them had one start and the other had two before I retired them permanently. In my experience it just isn't worth it. If you do get them to come back to the races expect them to be at about half their value pre-injury.
While I am very pessimistic about sesamoids for racing purposes, these horses can and do go on to have successful second careers. You may have to limit or even exclude jumping but everything else is a go. Good luck with it no matter what you decide to do with the horse.
While I am very pessimistic about sesamoids for racing purposes, these horses can and do go on to have successful second careers. You may have to limit or even exclude jumping but everything else is a go. Good luck with it no matter what you decide to do with the horse.
Well, they have him back in training already. 2 furlong works the other day. Trainer really doesn't want to push him, so fingers are crossed that he stays sound mentally and physically. We're hoping for the best!
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