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congratulations to ICE BOX

Postby jim10366 » Sat May 01, 2010 6:45 pm

i am always amazed in wathcing these races by horses that are determined and keep trying no matter what. This horse ran a very amazing race in my opinion.

he was right next to lookin at lucky. the cloud of mud hitting that last flight of horses was ridiculous. how are these animals able to breate and not inhale all of that? most in the last flight had enough from that alone it seemed. he had to check i think 4 times in the stretch.

while the winner was running a straight line that last 1/4 of a mile, ice box was weaving in and out about 4 paths and still closing.

i like this horse in the Belmont

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Postby karenkarenn » Sat May 01, 2010 7:30 pm

I agree I think Ice Box did very well.

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Postby JaradM » Sun May 02, 2010 8:12 am

I dont think there is a horse that can beat him in the Belmont.

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Postby zinn21 » Sun May 02, 2010 8:23 am

He showed great determination down the stretch. He had a rough trip but should have been no better than 3rd. Kent Desormeaoux went to sleep on Paddy O Prado the last sixteenth allowing Ice Box to tag him at the wire.

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Postby LB » Sun May 02, 2010 9:18 am

zinn21 wrote:He showed great determination down the stretch. He had a rough trip but should have been no better than 3rd. Kent Desormeaoux went to sleep on Paddy O Prado the last sixteenth allowing Ice Box to tag him at the wire.


I don't think Kent went to sleep--at that point in the race, Paddy O'Prado was pretty much done and Ice Box had all the momentum. If the race had been another 16th of a mile, IB would have caught Super Saver too.

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Postby Tucumcari » Sun May 02, 2010 9:48 am

Ice Box sooo should have won that race. I was hoping he would get a good trip.. even with the bad trip he had, he still came running and galloped past the winner with ease. I would have liked seeing the horse win it.. he has a shot at the TC if he had
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Postby zinn21 » Sun May 02, 2010 1:21 pm

LB wrote:

I don't think Kent went to sleep--at that point in the race, Paddy O'Prado was pretty much done and Ice Box had all the momentum. If the race had been another 16th of a mile, IB would have caught Super Saver too.


I totally disagree. Desormeaoux spanked him outside the eighth pole and he spurted. He then looked back, saw nothing coming, went to a hand ride and started fooling with his goggles then took a peak back, saw IB and tried a more aggressive hand ride. By then Ice Box had all the momentum and nailed him. After the wire Paddy galloped out the best of the three. Desormeaoux then tells the media he thought he should have won the race that he was stopped at the quarter pole. I thought the chart caller's comment that POP hung was a joke. He was fooling around the last eighth, even switched leads with 60 yards left. He was subjected to a dumb ride by Kent the last eighth mile. That's why Kent had to leave SoCal. Trainers and owners got sick of his poor judgement..

Had Desormeaoux used the whip and rode aggressively the last eighth, POP would have easily held off IB. Not taking away anything from IB. He had his share of troubles but no way with a jock riding hard the last eighth does POP get beat for second.

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Postby Dave C » Sun May 02, 2010 7:17 pm

Not saying KD is a great rider or excusing the way he finished the ride but he did have to check on the turn when CB either made the right choice to come out or just got lucky and took the hole that KD was looking at for POP. If POP gets to that hole first then Super Saver has to check and the finish is totally different. That's what horse racing is all about.

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Postby zinn21 » Mon May 03, 2010 6:38 am

Dave getting checked is part of racing but to lose focus in the biggest race in the world arguably is inexcusable. He might as well been playing with his Gameboy the last eighth mile.

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Postby Stevie Belmont » Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 am

Ice Box ran super...

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Postby Joltman » Mon May 03, 2010 1:56 pm

According to the DRF chart he was checked 3 times. The worst was the last, at the eighth pole, where he had to swing wide around a wall of horses. Four more strides and he's the winner. This was a truly awesome performance - one of the guttiest I've ever seen. Most horses, stopped once, are praised when they re-rally. This guy took mud the whole raced, got seriously checked three times and still almost won it.

He wins the Preakness if he's in and OK

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Postby LB » Mon May 03, 2010 3:27 pm

Joltman wrote:He wins the Preakness if he's in and OK



The connections currently say that the Preakness comes up too soon and that they are pointing him toward the Belmont.

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Postby TJ » Mon May 03, 2010 5:43 pm

Let's see if the trainer or the owner get's their way in the Preakness. This particular race is the reason why the Triple Crown is so hard to win....it takes a horse with a strong constitution to win at 1 1/4 miles, then wheel right back in two weeks going 1 3/16th's miles on May 15th and finally top it off 3 weeks after that going 1 1/2 miles into no mans land on June 5th.. TJ
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Postby jim10366 » Mon May 03, 2010 6:12 pm

Here is a story of Ice Boxs trip


Runner-up game in Kentucky Derby defeat
By Bill Marshall
Augusta Chronicle
Monday, May 3, 2010

"A closer with little early speed, his running style dictated that Ice Box would need what is termed "racing luck" to pass virtually the entire field and make it to the wire first. And the sloppy condition of the track condemned him to an avalanche of mud and water in the face, as jockey Jose Lezcano waited to the half-mile pole to put his colt in high gear.

Upon reaching that point, Ice Box was 22 lengths behind the pace-setting Conveyance, more than seven lengths farther back than Mine That Bird at the same stage of last year's Derby.

But from there, the little chestnut son of Pulpit lodged one of the most remarkable finishing runs in the history of this storied race.

Responding immediately when set down, Ice Box followed Lookin At Lucky through a narrow gap between two stopping competitors. He then swung to the inside of and past the Derby favorite into a brief pocket of daylight just before reaching the middle of the turn. Continuing to pass rivals like they were tied to a post, Ice Box dramatically closed the gap between his nose and Noble's Promise, which had assumed command on the turn.

But just before the quarter pole, after having picked up 15 lengths in a quarter of a mile, the trouble started. Running up on the heels of Mission Impazible, Lezcano checked Ice Box and wheeled around that rival, only to come upon a wall of horses racing side-by-side as the field straightened for the run to the wire. Hesitating for a brief second in the vain hope a hole would open, Lezcano only found things getting tighter.

In an extremely difficult situation, Lexcano rose in the saddle and applied the emergency brake, leaning back on the reins with all his strength. Ice Box threw his head in the air, bounced out of stride for a jump, and responded to his rider's signal to shift to the outside.

Four paths wider and finally finding a little running room, the game colt began to again pass the horses he had flown by on the turn.

Nearing the eighth pole, it appeared that Ice Box had a hole between Dublin and Make Music for Me and Lezcano aimed him for it. But suddenly, Dublin drifted out and the music maker leaned in. Once again, Lezcano had to check and edge his colt to the outside and around an obstacle.

With 150 yards to go, Ice Box was at last in the clear and, somehow, found the strength to accelerate again. Rapidly passing Dublin and Make Music for Me, only two remained to catch. Super Saver was too far ahead, Calvin Borel already taking the pressure off of his colt, but Paddy O'Prado was a reachable target.

On came the little chestnut, drawing even with the Irishman two jumps from the wire. So rapidly was Ice Box finishing that he claimed the place by a neck, falling 2 1/2 lengths short of the winner.

"It was great to see him run the way he did," Zito commented. "I didn't know if he would handle the track. As it was, he ran a winning race; he just didn't get the chance to win."

As the late Whitney Tower once said about another such horse, "He was game beyond the call of duty.""

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