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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:27 am 
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I don't remember of any gray sire whose sons and daughters were top quality performers fashioning a high percentage of winners in their first start at the track. Awesome. Just take a look at hisincredible numbers.

I am under the impression that we are witnessing the next The Tetrarch (gray H 1911), whose coat color was spread exponentially two generation later, thanks to his role as a broodmare sire: not to tak about his sons.


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Actually, I think that honour would ENTIRELY belong to Linamix.


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I understand and sort of partially agree with your opinion regarding Linamix, but there is a key difference. When The Tetrarch established his paradigm, England was a leading breeding force of enormous importance worldwide. In other words, the achievements of The Tetrarch were the achievents of the world so to speak. I am not sure that is the case with Linamix in the US. On the other hand, of course it's too early to trumpet Tapit's merits on a global scale right now; but looks to me that his trend is quite auspicious. If Linamix's merits were heavily felt on the western side of the Atlantic I would agree immediately. Anyway it's too early to proclaim Tapit without reserve for we are already witnessing another gray stallion whose sons and daughter are great but there are some durability concerns about his gets right now (no name will be alluded). On the other hand Tapit's progeny looks impressive from a durability standpoint and looks like having the potential to extend his breeding influence worldwide. But other than this digression, Linamix is an extraordinary candidate.


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Regarding the unnamed gray stallion, if his offspring were allowed more time to mature (as they are practically all very tall and usually immature when I have seen them at 2) they would probably fare better in training. Many are very talented and immature at the same time.


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Watch him. Still on the rise.


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Jorge wrote:
I don't remember of any gray sire whose sons and daughters were top quality performers fashioning a high percentage of winners in their first start at the track. Awesome. Just take a look at hisincredible numbers.

I am under the impression that we are witnessing the next The Tetrarch (gray H 1911), whose coat color was spread exponentially two generation later, thanks to his role as a broodmare sire: not to tak about his sons.


Jorge, I think the difference between then and now is that gray is already a pretty common color among TBs whereas it wasn't back in 1913. It was The Tetrarch's success and that of his descendents that first made gray popular when for the longest time, gray was more or less selected against.
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When The Tetrarch established his paradigm the gray color was extremely scarce but the number of Thoroughbreds in general was relatively small; so its a proportional equation.

Now the number of Thoroughbreds has increased exponentially and the leading sire lines are the Mr Prospectors, and Northern Dancers (non grays). Although the number of decent gray lineages has increased in a healthy way, the number of grays may decrease suddenly if the number of so many good grays actually serving is gone. I am not so sure on some of today's luxury gray lineages save for what I have been witnessing with the progeny of Tapit. Only time will tell.


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Another one for the list of the Tapits:

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Jorge wrote:
I don't remember of any gray sire whose sons and daughters were top quality performers fashioning a high percentage of winners in their first start at the track. Awesome. Just take a look at hisincredible numbers.

I am under the impression that we are witnessing the next The Tetrarch (gray H 1911), whose coat color was spread exponentially two generation later, thanks to his role as a broodmare sire: not to tak about his sons.


I'm very new at all this (both interest in equine color/breeding---and racing) but I'm beginning to look for 'Tapit' horses at the track. :wink:

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Too many good horses from TAPIT are surfacing. Just check his sophomores this year!


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No kidding, TAPIT is en-route to become a mighty influence!

Just check at this other thread:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... &start=165
“Zazu just won the GRI Las Virgenes Stakes at Santa Anita, in impeccable fashion. Another GRI winner for Tapit.”


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Our mare Officer Cherrie is being bred to Tapit this year! We are quite excited!!!

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Wow, would really like to see a product by Tapit out of ________ by
Airdrie Apache, or by Puchulingui, or those lineages.


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Jorge wrote:
Wow, would really like to see a product by Tapit out of ________ by
Airdrie Apache, or by Puchulingui, or those lineages.


Those lines are simply unproven as race horses. So I doubt anyone is going to gamble $80,000 on a stud fee to breed a mare who is either not proven she can run OR does not come from pedigree that has produced runners.

Someone would have to have a lot of money and simply do it because it would be fun... not to try and get the investment back.

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Those lines are simply unproven as race horses. So I doubt anyone is going to gamble $80,000 on a stud fee to breed a mare who is either not proven she can run OR does not come from pedigree that has produced runners.

Someone would have to have a lot of money and simply do it because it would be fun... not to try and get the investment back.


And even if you found someone with such a mare who was willing to shell out $80,000 for that breeding, good luck getting Gainesway to approve that mare for his book!


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