Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

[louis finochio]

Go back & read what creates a FB & what creates a NFB. You will then gain knowledge of the same.

[BenB]

The following TB that were injured and had to be put down have a pattern of inbreeding that could have caused their soundness problems.

Simply Because---------5 X 5 Nasrullah----------10 crosses of Phalaris

Blazing Sunset----------4 X 5 Northern Dancer---10 crosses of Phalaris

Star over the Bay------5 X 5 Nasrullah-----5 X 5 Turn-to-----7 crosses Ph.

Tizlater----------------2 X 4 Seattle Slew----5 X 5 Northern Dancer--8 Ph.

Gallant Secret-----------No Duplication-------------10 crosses Phalaris

Prime Honor-------------5 X 5 Buckpasser---4 X 5 Fleet Nasrullah--9 Ph.

Ginforthewin------------4 X 4 Northern Dancer---5 X 5 Nasrullah---6 Ph.

Playful Blint-------------3 X 3 Northern Dancer---4X5X5 Native Dancer 9 Ph.

Esroh--------------------5 X 5 Nasrullah--------------5 crosses Phalaris

Bonus Pack-------------4 X 5 Native Dancer--------6 crosses Phalaris

New Joysey Jeff--------4 X 5 Olympia---------------6 crosses Phalaris

Sheriff Jordan----------4 X 4 Bold Ruler--5X5X5 Nasrullah---7 crosses Ph.

Go Bye Bye------------4 X 4 Boldnesian-------------7 crosses Phalaris

Its Who you Know-----5 X 5 Northern Dancer------8 crosses Phalaris

To be continued.

enough said

[ElPrado]

If there is no duplication, how is it inbred? Just sayin.

[BenB]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/bonus+pack

bonus pack went down after 55 starts, so how ironic.

[BenB]

The following TB that were injured and had to be put down have a pattern of inbreeding that could have caused their soundness problems.

Simply Because---------5 X 5 Nasrullah----------10 crosses of Phalaris
NOTHING CLOSER THAN 8TH Generation...total 6x6
ALSO 6X6 TEDDY and 4X5 ROUND TABLE

Blazing Sunset----------4 X 5 Northern Dancer---10 crosses of Phalaris
NOTHING CLOSER THAN 8TH Generation...total 6x6

Star over the Bay------5 X 5 Nasrullah-----5 X 5 Turn-to-----7 crosses Ph.

Tizlater----------------2 X 4 Seattle Slew----5 X 5 Northern Dancer--8 Ph.

Gallant Secret-----------No Duplication-------------10 crosses Phalaris

Prime Honor-------------5 X 5 Buckpasser---4 X 5 Fleet Nasrullah--9 Ph.

Ginforthewin------------4 X 4 Northern Dancer---5 X 5 Nasrullah---6 Ph.

Playful Blint-------------3 X 3 Northern Dancer---4X5X5 Native Dancer 9 Ph.

Esroh--------------------5 X 5 Nasrullah--------------5 crosses Phalaris

Bonus Pack-------------4 X 5 Native Dancer--------6 crosses Phalaris

New Joysey Jeff--------4 X 5 Olympia---------------6 crosses Phalaris

Sheriff Jordan----------4 X 4 Bold Ruler--5X5X5 Nasrullah---7 crosses Ph.

Go Bye Bye------------4 X 4 Boldnesian-------------7 crosses Phalaris

Its Who you Know-----5 X 5 Northern Dancer------8 crosses Phalaris
NOTHING CLOSER THAN 8TH Generation...total 6x6

To be continued.

LOUIS...

HERE IS A CLUE TO SOME OF THIS...

Per the Brisnet reports, 3 of the first 13 horses that broke down were trained by Doug O'Neill. (Blazing Sunset, Simply Because & It's Who You Know) I hear he has TONS of Phalaris in his breeding

There were several horses dropping in class, with OBVIOUS "for sale signs" in the breakdowns.

I rest my case.

IMO, UNSOUND trainers and the Del Mar track are the "most likely" causes of these Del Mar breakdowns. I wouldn't run a horse there this meet. The turf course at Del Mar looks like crap, IMO. All but a couple of the trainers of the first 14 that broke down, would be on my personal DON'T USE list.

Doug o,Neil is an trainer with an overall bad record compares to other trainers btw

[BenB]

As I posted before those Euro trainers are getting more mileage out of our USA TB, as their training methods are far superior than ours.

Louis your own words, so get this over, as most americans will take the needle instead of training, and the fast dirt tracks are not benefitting any young horse for a long racing live.

I,d think the americans are living on an other planet than we, costumized to the vet,s.


http://www.pedigreequery.com/simply+because
An nfb btw The tack record was too much asked

http://www.pedigreequery.com/blazing+sunset2 another nfb

to be continued

[louis finochio]

Bonus Pac is bred like the tb i want to claim. A NFB bred, stamina & turf, & longevity & prolific crosses of NP individuals.

I have claimed Gab Power in my fantasy stable. He won on turf, 8/18/2012.

[BenB]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/go+bye+bye

made 31 starts before breaking down, is inbred to boldenesian. Another nfb

Read the information at PQ.

to be contininued

[louis finochio]

Blazing Sunset a NFB has 24 crosses Ph. stallions. BS has the same Ph. clusters of stallions & mares that have contributed to the most injuries found in those FB.

Those Ph. stallions & mares our:

Nearctic, RAN, Secretariat, ND 2 crosses, Tom Fool, Nijinsky, Turn-to, Mr. P., HTR, Gold Digger, Natalma.

[louis finochio]

Go Bye Bye is a type 1 FB, go back & read his pedigree. GBB has prolific crosses of NP stallions & mares, thats why he stayed so sound. He was bred from a FB mating of Fair Play over Ph.

[BenB]

The following TB that were injured and had to be put down have a pattern of inbreeding that could have caused their soundness problems.

Just your own writing and not mine.

[BenB]

Richard's Kid is a NFB, he was bred from a Ph. over Domino mating. RK only has 2 inbreedings, to Ph. stallions.

.

He has two seperate inbreedings to ph.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/go+bye+bye this one is having just 1 inbreeding an called an FB 1

Hardly consistence, but I can not require that from an out and out one liner.

Just change all and everything, till it fits.

Louis, Iam gooiing to enjoy the others who left this thread in large numbers,but from an different sight, you ain,t consistence, your opinion is concluded without any facts, just benefitting from your hand made selections.

Lastly, there is an hell of an difference between the rest of the world and the US in relationship with the use of medications, the dirt track in use, the regulatory system and so on.

[diomed]

Louis, Iam gooiing to enjoy the others who left this thread in large numbers,but from an different sight, you ain,t consistence, your opinion is concluded without any facts, just benefitting from your hand made selections.

Have you joined yet? It's fun over there and informative. Can't wait to see ya!

[ElPrado]

Richard's Kid (2005)
5.0 % Phalaris
5.1 % Teddy
6.5 % St Simon

including:
8.2 % Nasrullah
8.6 % Turn-to

Of course, he's an NFB, because Louis says so, so there!

[louis finochio]

BAD LITTLE FELLOW (USA) b. G, 1999 DP = 5-7-10-0-0 (22) DI = 3.40 CD = 0.77 - 74 Starts, 12 Wins, 10 Places, 6 Shows Career Earnings: $206,746

Owner: Championhill Stables
Breeder: Darrell R. Sapp
State Bred: OH
Winnings: 74 Starts: 12 - 10 - 6, $206,746

1st Cleveland Gold Cup S., 2nd Best Ohio Endurance S.

BAD LITTLE FELLOW b. G, 1999
Lost Soldier---Say Your Prayers, by Keep it Down

BLF is a NFB being inbred 5 X 5 Princequillo=Prince Rose NP outcross---5 X 5 Native Dancer

BLF has 23 crosses NP mares & 13 crosses NP stallions
The inbreeding is divided between NP & Ph. This is not seen in the present.
This is why we are seeing too many tbs being injured.