1/2 sister to WISE DAN, SUCCESSFUL DAN--bred to UNCLE MO

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Postby TJ » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:27 pm

Charlie Lopresti confirms Wise Dan will run in the BC Mile. TJ

http://www.drf.com/news/keeneland-notes ... -cup-preps

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Postby zinn21 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:18 pm

Some are calling Wise Dan the best horse in North America right now. I would think the half sister is worth a lot more than $150k today.

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Postby Jane » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:56 pm

I'd certainly say she was a very good buy for her present owner, that's some kinda runner to have a half sister to.

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Postby Des » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:09 pm

What has the mare produced so far? Guess she is priced that high only because she is a half to Wise Dan.... Good luck to who ever takes her for that price.......

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Postby dublino » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:47 am

Des wrote:What has the mare produced so far? Guess she is priced that high only because she is a half to Wise Dan.... Good luck to who ever takes her for that price.......


Nothing unproven mare in foal to an unproven stallion (bet she is in foal with a filly, thats why he is dumping her)

But she is a 1/2 sister to the best horse in America.

Look at the auction results from Europe 2 Galileo fillys sold as yearlings for over $2m dollars a piece ( granted their dams have both produced G1 winners, but will lightning strike again?)

I say keep the filly and sell her as a yearling.
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Postby BargainBlueblood » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:54 pm

I would hardly call $150,000 -- which, frankly, is not a bad price in my book for a young half-sister to a potential Horse of the Year candidate, in foal with a first-crop foal by a brilliant champion 2-year-old -- "dumping." I take it you're being sarcastic with the word choice?
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Postby Tappiano » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:53 am

If nobody wanted to buy the mare at 125K why would they suddenly jump for another 25K? The mare has three foals now, the first one is a one time winner who was last seen running in low level claiming races last year. The second one is three and is unraced and the third one is a yearling.

Would you really want to spend that kind of money on a mare who's already had foals of racing age who have not done anything to improve her page? Why would this particular foal be more attractive than the 160 other one's by the same sire?

If the mare were really worth 150K then why was she bred down to a stallion who's advertised stud fee is 35K?

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Postby madelyn » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:39 am

Tappiano wrote:......If the mare were really worth 150K then why was she bred down to a stallion who's advertised stud fee is 35K?


Actually, there is an old rule of thumb, that you breed a mare to a stallion whose fee is about 25% of her value.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby LB » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:57 am

Tappiano wrote:If the mare were really worth 150K then why was she bred down to a stallion who's advertised stud fee is 35K?


There are very few people in the business who would think of breeding to Uncle Mo as "breeding down" regardless of a mare's value.

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Postby stlouiskid » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:50 am

Wish I had a few more mares like this I could "dump". See you bought this mare for $1000.00, very astute purchase.
She is a half to 3 stakes horses, two of them graded, Honour and Glory is a good broodmare sire, second dam by Secretariat.
If I had seen this earlier I would have told you to put her in the Fasig November, she would bring at least 100K there and maybe a lot more if you get the right people looking.
Consider the Keeneland Jan. sale, she would be a standout there. Weather can be a crap shoot at that sale is the only problem.

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Postby dublino » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:48 am

madelyn wrote:Actually, there is an old rule of thumb, that you breed a mare to a stallion whose fee is about 25% of her value.


stlouiskid wrote:Wish I had a few more mares like this I could "dump". See you bought this mare for $1000.00, very astute purchase.


Was Uncle Mo standing for $250??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby madelyn » Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:09 am

Her price did not reflect her value.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby griff » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:35 am

What is this mare's mane??

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Postby pfrsue » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:06 am

griff wrote:What is this mare's mane??

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Well, she's listed as dark bay or brown, so I would say probably mostly black. Maybe with some dark brown hairs mixed in. Of course, if she's been turned out over the summer, there might be a bit of fading... but yeah, mostly black.