Perfect Soul

[hpkingjr]

Hold to Fashion Was a great producing mare, one of several, that were sent to Perfect Soul. Three foals from 2007 to 09. Combined winnings of less than $11,000.00. One winner, a 5k maiden claimer at Turf Paradise out of a mare that otherwise produced about 4 million in earnings. Took a great page and left a three year void. May be one of the most disappointing sires in the last twenty years. Great books of mares, on average sad production. I missed the Derby exacta because I routinely throw out any Perfect Soul produce.
I can find many other examples of great mares when bred to other stallions, producing poorly, but Perfect Soul was the poster child.
Can anyone remember a more disappointing stallion other than Beherens ?
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[ct2346]

Buddha. Threw nice foals. None could run.

[hpkingjr]

Forgot about him. Great yearlings, all looked the part. Thanks

[Cree]

Behrens is being sent to Old Friends NY, I believe. Too bad, he was a tough racehorse. He was definitely a disappointment.

[hpkingjr]

He was a tough warrior as a runner, seems like he won six million dollars.

[Affirmed1]

Cuando Quiere- dam of Honey Ryder and several other stakes horses. Bred two years in a row to Bernardini. Foals sold at auction for combined $700K (youngest of the two is now a four year old). Both offspring by Bernardini made it to the track- both maidens after multiple starts each.

Two blank years on the page, out of a top tier stallion. I haven't been impressed, given the books of mares that Bernardini has had, that he is at all living up to the hype.

[hpkingjr]

Another example of how damaging Perfect Soul was to a page is the dam of Borrego. Before she met Perfect Soul for four years in a row, 2007 through 2010, she had seven foals with total earnings of $2,170,000.00 or on average three hundred ten thousand ($310,000.00) production per foal. Her last four foals were all by Perfect Soul, total earnings of less then $58,000.00 or $14,500.00 per foal, all substantially lower than his stud fee at the time. People should be aware that buying into the Soul progeny may be hard to overcome. Hopefully a different sire will show how classy this mare is.
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Give the Pope and the King of England a horse and in thirty days, they'll be stealing halters.

[Cree]

It's funny you say that, a Perfect Soul topped the CTHS Ont yearling sale today.

http://www.drf.com/news/cths-ontario-pr ... s-declines

[Shergar]

Another example of how damaging Perfect Soul was to a page is the dam of Borrego. Before she met Perfect Soul for four years in a row, 2007 through 2010, she had seven foals with total earnings of $2,170,000.00 or on average three hundred ten thousand ($310,000.00) production per foal. Her last four foals were all by Perfect Soul, total earnings of less then $58,000.00 or $14,500.00 per foal, all substantially lower than his stud fee at the time. People should be aware that buying into the Soul progeny may be hard to overcome. Hopefully a different sire will show how classy this mare is.
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Give the Pope and the King of England a horse and in thirty days, they'll be stealing halters.

How much of that 2.1 million did Borrego account for?

Shergar

[hpkingjr]

He made 2 Million. If you throw him out the other foals averaged 3.5 times the earnings of the Soul progeny. Excellent observation but no matter how you analyze it, in almost all cases, Perfect Soul gutted the pages of some great mares. With the quality of the mares Soul covered in his first four years, I am surprised at how bleak the results turned out to be.

[hpkingjr]

It's funny you say that, a Perfect Soul topped the CTHS Ont yearling sale today.

http://www.drf.com/news/cths-ontario-pr ... s-declines

This is another example . The dam produced a grade 1 winner when bred to Giants Causeway and two modest foals from Perfect Soul. The first did break his maiden as a four year old and both have won about 50k.
013. Dam of 3 foals to race, all winners--
INTERNALLYFLAWLESS (f. by Giant's Causeway). Winner at 2 and 3, $267,545, in N.A./U.S., Del Mar Oaks [G1] (DMR, $210,000), 2nd Mi- esque S. [G3] (HOL, $20,000). (Total: $275,598).
Seekingthediamond (c. by Perfect Soul (IRE)). Placed to 4, 2013, $19,092, in Canada; winner at 4, 2013, $56,502, in N.A./U.S. (Total: $75,340). Fire Into Ice (f. by Perfect Soul (IR

[kimberley mine]

Can anyone remember a more disappointing stallion other than Beherens ?

Gentlemen (ARG) and Soul of the Matter.

[hpkingjr]

Can anyone remember a more disappointing stallion other than Beherens ?

Gentlemen (ARG) and Soul of the Matter.

Refresh my memory, didn't they send him to Japan, he did not nick well with any of the mares and they sold him back to California . When did he retire as a stallion?

[Cree]

Event of the Year.

[karenkarenn]

Stormy jack