A new grey find: Time Prisoner
--- Time Prisioner (grey h. 2007) (by Elusive Quality)
01. Zelanda (grey m. 1995)
02. Zafadola (grey m. 1988)
03. Zarafa (grey m. 1983)
04. Zahra (grey m. 1974)
05. Petite Etoile (grey m. 1956)
06. Star of Iran (grey m. 1949)
07. Mah Iran (grey m. 1939) [dam of Migoli]
08. Mah Mahal (grey m. 1928)
09. Mumtaz Mahal (grey m. 1921)
10. The Tetrarch (grey h. 1911)
Jorge, gray lines
Moderators: Roguelet, WaveMaster, Jorge, Sunday Silence
Interesting multiple gray lineage(s)
Ullapool (gray f 2009)
01. Grey Traffic (gray m 2001)
02. Onedayin L A (gray m 1994)
03. Heavenly Plain (gray h 1981)
04. Nuageuse (gray m 1972)
05. Cloudy Gal (gray m 1963)
06. Iona’s Girl (gray m 1956)
07. Vilmorin (gray h 1943) [crossed with Miss Portia ***** see below]
08. Queen of the Meadows (gray m 1938)
09. Queen of the Blues (gray m 1929)
10. Blue Fairy (gray m 1922)
11. Vanish (gray m 1910)
12. Grey Lady (gray m 1898)
13. Grey Leg (gray h 1891)
14. Pepper and Salt (gray h. 1882)
*****
Miss Portia (color unknown m 1949)
01. Loan (gray m 1940)
02. Portlaw (gray h 1928) [out of Borrow gray m 1931 see below +++++]
03. Portree (gray m 1922)
04. Stefan the Great (gray h 1916)
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Borrow (gray m 1931)
01. Booktalk (gray m 1926)
02. Tete-A-Tete (gray m 1917)
03. The Tetrarch (gray h 1911)
Ullapool (gray f 2009)
01. Grey Traffic (gray m 2001)
02. Onedayin L A (gray m 1994)
03. Heavenly Plain (gray h 1981)
04. Nuageuse (gray m 1972)
05. Cloudy Gal (gray m 1963)
06. Iona’s Girl (gray m 1956)
07. Vilmorin (gray h 1943) [crossed with Miss Portia ***** see below]
08. Queen of the Meadows (gray m 1938)
09. Queen of the Blues (gray m 1929)
10. Blue Fairy (gray m 1922)
11. Vanish (gray m 1910)
12. Grey Lady (gray m 1898)
13. Grey Leg (gray h 1891)
14. Pepper and Salt (gray h. 1882)
*****
Miss Portia (color unknown m 1949)
01. Loan (gray m 1940)
02. Portlaw (gray h 1928) [out of Borrow gray m 1931 see below +++++]
03. Portree (gray m 1922)
04. Stefan the Great (gray h 1916)
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Borrow (gray m 1931)
01. Booktalk (gray m 1926)
02. Tete-A-Tete (gray m 1917)
03. The Tetrarch (gray h 1911)
ROANA’S ROAR (grey H 2008)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/roanas+roar
This grey is coming from The Tetrarch, which means that
he is not a rarity per se, but the grey strain from which he
is coming is rare indeed. Please examine:
ROANA’S ROAR (grey H 2008)
01. From ROANA GALE (grey M 1994)
02. From AROANAPPEAL (roan M 1986)
03. From AROANHONEY (grey M 1975)
04. By RI TUX (grey H 1963)
05. By HAVE TUX (grey H 1957)
06. From RITAKAN (grey M 1953)
07. By NATHOO (grey H 1945)
08. From TAJ SHIRIN (grey M 1927)
09. From TAJ MAHAL (grey M 1921)
10. By THE TETRARCH (grey H 1911)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/roanas+roar
This grey is coming from The Tetrarch, which means that
he is not a rarity per se, but the grey strain from which he
is coming is rare indeed. Please examine:
ROANA’S ROAR (grey H 2008)
01. From ROANA GALE (grey M 1994)
02. From AROANAPPEAL (roan M 1986)
03. From AROANHONEY (grey M 1975)
04. By RI TUX (grey H 1963)
05. By HAVE TUX (grey H 1957)
06. From RITAKAN (grey M 1953)
07. By NATHOO (grey H 1945)
08. From TAJ SHIRIN (grey M 1927)
09. From TAJ MAHAL (grey M 1921)
10. By THE TETRARCH (grey H 1911)
Probable Japan's Champion 3-year-old
GOLD SHIP owes his grey color to a long forgotten
The Tetrarch grey branch. I am referring to the talented
First Fiddle. Seems like GOLD SHIP may resurface
that grey strain. Good luck!
00. GOLD SHIP (grey h 2009)
01. from POINT FLAG (grey m 1998)
02. by MEJIRO MCUEEN (grey h 1987)
03. by MEJIRO TITAN (grey h 1978)
04. by MEJIRO ASAMA (grey h 1966)
05. from SWEET SIXTEEN (grey m 1951)
06. by FIRST FIDDLE (grey h 1939)*************************
07. by ROYAL MINSTREL (grey h 1925)
08. by TETRATEMA (grey h 1917)
09. by THE TETRARCH (grey h 1917)
GOLD SHIP owes his grey color to a long forgotten
The Tetrarch grey branch. I am referring to the talented
First Fiddle. Seems like GOLD SHIP may resurface
that grey strain. Good luck!
00. GOLD SHIP (grey h 2009)
01. from POINT FLAG (grey m 1998)
02. by MEJIRO MCUEEN (grey h 1987)
03. by MEJIRO TITAN (grey h 1978)
04. by MEJIRO ASAMA (grey h 1966)
05. from SWEET SIXTEEN (grey m 1951)
06. by FIRST FIDDLE (grey h 1939)*************************
07. by ROYAL MINSTREL (grey h 1925)
08. by TETRATEMA (grey h 1917)
09. by THE TETRARCH (grey h 1917)
Here is a very very interesting, rare and unique surviving 21st. century grey lineage
who deserves to be mentioned here in bold letters.
Here is the case:
SCENE (gray f 2010) http://www.pedigreequery.com/scene6
Is a very interesting grey filly with one of the most unusual and talented
grey strains. Just take a look:
01. from HEYAM (grey m 1998)
02. from VITESSE GRANDE (grey m 1982)
03. from GRIS VITESSE (grey m 1966) (also the dam of the great sire, Silver Hawk)
04. from MATCHICHE (grey m 1956)
05. from CHIMERE FABULEUSE (grey m 1951)
06. from NINE (grey m 1931)
07. from IORDANE (grey m 1924)
08. from IMPRUDENTE (grey m 1912)
09. from GAGEURE (grey m 1906)
10. by CHAMBERTIN (grey h 1894)
11. by LE SANCY (grey h 1884) (grey great-grandsire of The Tetrarch)
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SILVER HAWK (bay h 1979) http://www.pedigreequery.com/silver+hawk
THE TETRARCH (grey h 1911) http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+tetrarch
who deserves to be mentioned here in bold letters.
Here is the case:
SCENE (gray f 2010) http://www.pedigreequery.com/scene6
Is a very interesting grey filly with one of the most unusual and talented
grey strains. Just take a look:
01. from HEYAM (grey m 1998)
02. from VITESSE GRANDE (grey m 1982)
03. from GRIS VITESSE (grey m 1966) (also the dam of the great sire, Silver Hawk)
04. from MATCHICHE (grey m 1956)
05. from CHIMERE FABULEUSE (grey m 1951)
06. from NINE (grey m 1931)
07. from IORDANE (grey m 1924)
08. from IMPRUDENTE (grey m 1912)
09. from GAGEURE (grey m 1906)
10. by CHAMBERTIN (grey h 1894)
11. by LE SANCY (grey h 1884) (grey great-grandsire of The Tetrarch)
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SILVER HAWK (bay h 1979) http://www.pedigreequery.com/silver+hawk
THE TETRARCH (grey h 1911) http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+tetrarch
Jorge wrote:Here is a very very interesting, rare and unique surviving 21st. century grey lineage
who deserves to be mentioned here in bold letters.
Here is the case:
SCENE (gray f 2010) http://www.pedigreequery.com/scene6
Is a very interesting grey filly with one of the most unusual and talented
grey strains. Just take a look:
01. from HEYAM (grey m 1998)
02. from VITESSE GRANDE (grey m 1982)
03. from GRIS VITESSE (grey m 1966) (also the dam of the great sire, Silver Hawk)
04. from MATCHICHE (grey m 1956)
05. from CHIMERE FABULEUSE (grey m 1951)
06. from NINE (grey m 1931)
07. from IORDANE (grey m 1924)
08. from IMPRUDENTE (grey m 1912)
09. from GAGEURE (grey m 1906)
10. by CHAMBERTIN (grey h 1894)
11. by LE SANCY (grey h 1884) (grey great-grandsire of The Tetrarch)
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SILVER HAWK (bay h 1979) http://www.pedigreequery.com/silver+hawk
THE TETRARCH (grey h 1911) http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+tetrarch
Another grey strain coming from Heyam but with
a different sire is:
IRISH CHIMES (grey m 2005) http://www.pedigreequery.com/irish+chimes2
EVENING STORM (Grey colt 2010) http://www.pedigreequery.com/evening+storm5
When was the last time you saw a 21st century
grey colt who owes his coat color due to his fourth
Broodmare sire, shown here? Take a look:
01. From PALACE BRIDE (grey M 1996)
02. From BRIDESMAID (grey M 1983)
03. From ZAMEEN (grey M 1966)
04. From NOL (grey M 1955)
05. By PALESTINE (grey H 1947)
When was the last time you saw a 21st century
grey colt who owes his coat color due to his fourth
Broodmare sire, shown here? Take a look:
01. From PALACE BRIDE (grey M 1996)
02. From BRIDESMAID (grey M 1983)
03. From ZAMEEN (grey M 1966)
04. From NOL (grey M 1955)
05. By PALESTINE (grey H 1947)
Here is a very interesting juvenile grey colt
from Japan who owes his color
directly from a very rare strain
coming from The Tetrarch.
See his data and pedigree:
Meiner Frost: http://www.pedigreequery.com/meiner+frost
(by Black Tide --- Three Snow Grass)
00. Meiner Frost (grey c 2011) (produced from:)
01. Three Snow Grass (grey m 2004) (produced from:)
02. Diamond Snow (grey m 1995) (produced from:)
03. Ancient Regime (grey m 1978) (produced from:)
04. Caterina (grey m 1963) (produced from:)
05. Radiopye (grey m 1954) (produced from:)
06. Silversol (grey m 1940) (produced from:)
07. Silver Lady (grey m 1932) (produced from:)
08. Old Rowley (grey h 1921) (sired by:)
09. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
from Japan who owes his color
directly from a very rare strain
coming from The Tetrarch.
See his data and pedigree:
Meiner Frost: http://www.pedigreequery.com/meiner+frost
(by Black Tide --- Three Snow Grass)
00. Meiner Frost (grey c 2011) (produced from:)
01. Three Snow Grass (grey m 2004) (produced from:)
02. Diamond Snow (grey m 1995) (produced from:)
03. Ancient Regime (grey m 1978) (produced from:)
04. Caterina (grey m 1963) (produced from:)
05. Radiopye (grey m 1954) (produced from:)
06. Silversol (grey m 1940) (produced from:)
07. Silver Lady (grey m 1932) (produced from:)
08. Old Rowley (grey h 1921) (sired by:)
09. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
Gray lineage / The Tetrarch
Dear Jorge and other members,
I am very happy to join your forum and share your enthousiasm on breeding.
My name is christopher and I live in center of France (Allier, area famous for breeding TB and partbred for steeplechase.
But I am more passionate by flat races and especially by
the ROI HERODE The Tetrarch grey lineage.
I have 4 TB mares (2grey, 2 chestnut) and own a grey stallion: RYOKAN:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/ryokan2
His father Highest Honor (grey, many times leader sire in France, sire of many stallions like Verglas, ... and champion California Memory in Hong kong. Mother Grey Goddess (also grey) by Godswalk-Dancer's image, grandmother of PIPALONG great sprint champion in UK.
I am very happy to join your forum and share your enthousiasm on breeding.
My name is christopher and I live in center of France (Allier, area famous for breeding TB and partbred for steeplechase.
But I am more passionate by flat races and especially by
the ROI HERODE The Tetrarch grey lineage.
I have 4 TB mares (2grey, 2 chestnut) and own a grey stallion: RYOKAN:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/ryokan2
His father Highest Honor (grey, many times leader sire in France, sire of many stallions like Verglas, ... and champion California Memory in Hong kong. Mother Grey Goddess (also grey) by Godswalk-Dancer's image, grandmother of PIPALONG great sprint champion in UK.
Hello, I live in center of France. I breed some thoroughbreds and own a stalion named RYOKAN.
I speak english, dutch and german, and iI am passionated with grey TB lines...
I speak english, dutch and german, and iI am passionated with grey TB lines...
Grey lineage
RYOKAN is one a of the few grey TB stallions who are in France.
His interest is is multiple inbrreedings on grey:
Via daughters of The Tetrarch:
- QUEEN HERODIAS 2 times 9th generation
-HERODIAS : 1 time " "
-TETE A TETE: 1 time
-MUMTAZ MAHAL: 9 times 7th, mainly 8th and ç generation
Via Sons of The Tetrarch:
-TETRATEMA 4 times 8th gen (3 times daughters, 1 son)
-STEFAN THE GREAT 1 time
Via daughters of ROI HERODE:
-LA GRISETTE: 2 times
-LADY COMEY 1 time
Via daughters of LE SANCY:
-TOISON D'OR 1x
-MADE 1x
-SEMENDRIA 1x
His interest is is multiple inbrreedings on grey:
Via daughters of The Tetrarch:
- QUEEN HERODIAS 2 times 9th generation
-HERODIAS : 1 time " "
-TETE A TETE: 1 time
-MUMTAZ MAHAL: 9 times 7th, mainly 8th and ç generation
Via Sons of The Tetrarch:
-TETRATEMA 4 times 8th gen (3 times daughters, 1 son)
-STEFAN THE GREAT 1 time
Via daughters of ROI HERODE:
-LA GRISETTE: 2 times
-LADY COMEY 1 time
Via daughters of LE SANCY:
-TOISON D'OR 1x
-MADE 1x
-SEMENDRIA 1x
Hello, I live in center of France. I breed some thoroughbreds and own a stalion named RYOKAN.
I speak english, dutch and german, and iI am passionated with grey TB lines...
I speak english, dutch and german, and iI am passionated with grey TB lines...
Re: Gray lineage / The Tetrarch
delaume wrote:Dear Jorge and other members,
I am very happy to join your forum and share your enthousiasm on breeding.
My name is christopher and I live in center of France (Allier, area famous for breeding TB and partbred for steeplechase.
But I am more passionate by flat races and especially by
the ROI HERODE The Tetrarch grey lineage.
I have 4 TB mares (2grey, 2 chestnut) and own a grey stallion: RYOKAN:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/ryokan2
His father Highest Honor (grey, many times leader sire in France, sire of many stallions like Verglas, ... and champion California Memory in Hong kong. Mother Grey Goddess (also grey) by Godswalk-Dancer's image, grandmother of PIPALONG great sprint champion in UK.
Thank you very much for bringing up the name of RYOKAN.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/ryokan2
It's a pleasant surprise to see again the name of his maternal sire, GODSWALK. By the way, do you know if the sire-line of GODSWALK,
(son of one-time France based stallion DANCERS IMAGE) has survived in France?
Thanks again for your participation. You are quite welcome to share more
on the stallion RYOKAN!
Here is another inconspicuous 21st Century Thoroughbred
(a filly) who traces her grey color directly from
Stefan The Great (son of The Tetrarch).
Her name is: STORM WITH FLAIR (grey/ro filly 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/storm+with+flair [sired by]
01. Tompest (grey/ro h 2004) [produced from]
02. Kistena (grey m 1993) [produced from]
03. Mabrova (grey m 1987) [produced from]
04. Makarova (grey m 1975) [produced from]
05. Midou (grey m 1970) [produced from]
06. Midget (grey m 1953) [sired by]
07. Djebe (grey h 1945) [produced from]
08. Catherine (grey m 1940) [produced from]
09. Catherinette (grey m 1934) [produced from]
10. Czarina (grey m 1923) [sired by]
11. Stefan The Great (grey h 1916) [sired by]
12. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
(a filly) who traces her grey color directly from
Stefan The Great (son of The Tetrarch).
Her name is: STORM WITH FLAIR (grey/ro filly 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/storm+with+flair [sired by]
01. Tompest (grey/ro h 2004) [produced from]
02. Kistena (grey m 1993) [produced from]
03. Mabrova (grey m 1987) [produced from]
04. Makarova (grey m 1975) [produced from]
05. Midou (grey m 1970) [produced from]
06. Midget (grey m 1953) [sired by]
07. Djebe (grey h 1945) [produced from]
08. Catherine (grey m 1940) [produced from]
09. Catherinette (grey m 1934) [produced from]
10. Czarina (grey m 1923) [sired by]
11. Stefan The Great (grey h 1916) [sired by]
12. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
A very interesting comment regarding LOVELY OCEAN (Chi):
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lovely+ocean
who just arrived 11th in the 2014 Gran Premio Internacional Asociacion Latinoamericana de Jockey Clubes e Hipodromos (Gr. I)
Lovely Ocean’s grey lineage comes from a rare well-preserved maternal
grey strain coming from Tetratema, son of The Tetrarch. Lets unfold this maternal grey strain:
01. Tanto Carino (grey m 2004)
02. Tacos Bell (grey m 1996)
03. Taryn (grey m 1991)
04. Tess (grey m 1979)
05. Jarandilla (grey m 1963)
06. Tetrapetalous (grey m 1951)
07. Tetranela (grey m 1945)
08. Tetrasil (grey m 1937)
09. Tetratema (grey h 1917)
10. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
Read pertinent article at:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... na-in-peru
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lovely+ocean
who just arrived 11th in the 2014 Gran Premio Internacional Asociacion Latinoamericana de Jockey Clubes e Hipodromos (Gr. I)
Lovely Ocean’s grey lineage comes from a rare well-preserved maternal
grey strain coming from Tetratema, son of The Tetrarch. Lets unfold this maternal grey strain:
01. Tanto Carino (grey m 2004)
02. Tacos Bell (grey m 1996)
03. Taryn (grey m 1991)
04. Tess (grey m 1979)
05. Jarandilla (grey m 1963)
06. Tetrapetalous (grey m 1951)
07. Tetranela (grey m 1945)
08. Tetrasil (grey m 1937)
09. Tetratema (grey h 1917)
10. The Tetrarch (grey h 1911)
Read pertinent article at:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... na-in-peru
The 2006 dark bay or brown horse, Obeche http://www.pedigreequery.com/obeche2
carries a very interesting autonomous grey strain originating from
the grey sire Le Sancy (who was tail-male great grandsire of The Tetrarch).
Obeche’s second dam was the gray mare Borama.
Here is her gray strain going back to Le Sancy:
01. Borama (gray m 1981)
02. Borgia (gray m 1974)
03. La Beauvoisiniere (gray m 1967)
04. Altissima (gray m 1960)
05. Ad Altiora (gray m 1953)
06. Labrador (gray h 1937)
07. Biribi (gray h 1923)
08. La Bidouze (gray m 1915)
09. La Bidassoa (gray m 1907)
10. Semendria (gray m 1897)
11. Le Sancy (gray h 1884) (great-grandsire of The Tetrarch)
Alas there seems to be no 21st century grey descendant coming from Borama!
carries a very interesting autonomous grey strain originating from
the grey sire Le Sancy (who was tail-male great grandsire of The Tetrarch).
Obeche’s second dam was the gray mare Borama.
Here is her gray strain going back to Le Sancy:
01. Borama (gray m 1981)
02. Borgia (gray m 1974)
03. La Beauvoisiniere (gray m 1967)
04. Altissima (gray m 1960)
05. Ad Altiora (gray m 1953)
06. Labrador (gray h 1937)
07. Biribi (gray h 1923)
08. La Bidouze (gray m 1915)
09. La Bidassoa (gray m 1907)
10. Semendria (gray m 1897)
11. Le Sancy (gray h 1884) (great-grandsire of The Tetrarch)
Alas there seems to be no 21st century grey descendant coming from Borama!
Re: Jorge, gray lines
Here is a very interesting 21st. Century grey strain originating
from a very unique Chilean grey branch of TETRATEMA,
son of THE TETRARCH:
The case is LOVELY OCEAN (Chi) (grey/ro h 2010)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lovely+ocean
01. From TANTO CARINO (Chi) (grey m 2004)
02. From TACOS BELL (Chi) (grey m 1996)
03. From TARYN (Chi) (grey m 1991)
04. From TESS (Chi) (grey m 1979)
05. From JARANDILLA (Chi) (grey m 1963)
06. From TETRAPETALOUS (Chi) (grey m 1951)
07. From TETRANELA (Chi) (grey m 1945)
08. From TETRASIL (GB) (grey m 1937)
09. By TETRATEMA (GB) (grey h 1917)
10. By THE TETRARCH (IRE) (grey h 1911)
from a very unique Chilean grey branch of TETRATEMA,
son of THE TETRARCH:
The case is LOVELY OCEAN (Chi) (grey/ro h 2010)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lovely+ocean
01. From TANTO CARINO (Chi) (grey m 2004)
02. From TACOS BELL (Chi) (grey m 1996)
03. From TARYN (Chi) (grey m 1991)
04. From TESS (Chi) (grey m 1979)
05. From JARANDILLA (Chi) (grey m 1963)
06. From TETRAPETALOUS (Chi) (grey m 1951)
07. From TETRANELA (Chi) (grey m 1945)
08. From TETRASIL (GB) (grey m 1937)
09. By TETRATEMA (GB) (grey h 1917)
10. By THE TETRARCH (IRE) (grey h 1911)