A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

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Postby Jorge » Wed May 15, 2013 9:50 pm

Pondering on the possibility of an eventual appaloosa Thoroughbred oddity, have you noticed that in addition to his broad white blaze, Preakness participant Will Take Charge is also sporting a very curious-looking white-sclera left eye?

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Postby belambi » Wed May 15, 2013 11:19 pm

Jorge wrote:Pondering on the possibility of an eventual appaloosa Thoroughbred oddity, have you noticed that in addition to his broad white blaze, Preakness participant Will Take Charge is also sporting a very curious-looking white-sclera left eye?


Hey Jorge

I see exactly why you say that. However, it is also a very common trait associated with possible 'patn 'genes also,(as well as paint and pinto basics). The patn genes are those responsible for expression of the leopard gene (should it be present)...So he would be a good adition to a LP type horse

This short video clip..(just the first minute or two) show an example of how the lp gene colouring, can start to become visible from basically a solid looking foal to some colour starting after a few days.

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1926 ... turity.wmv

Researchers are very interested in this later developing type of colour, and see it as being very helpful toward the isolation of the next genetic markers.

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Postby Jorge » Thu May 23, 2013 10:13 pm

This is a better photo of WILL TAKE CHARGE's left eye:

http://www.google.com.pr/search?hl=es-4 ... B480%3B564

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Postby Jorge » Mon May 27, 2013 1:51 pm

A curious-looking appalossa–looking gray

Take a close look at horse number five

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5hptRhgREM

The people who posted this labeled it as
“Send Silver-Appaloosa Thoroughbred racehorse”

SEND SILVER (grey g 2008) http://www.pedigreequery.com/send+silver

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Postby Jorge » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Take a look to this Appaloosa with a nice running-like morphology:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/sport%20horse

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Postby Jorge » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:30 pm

Jorge wrote:Take a look to this Appaloosa with a nice running-like morphology:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/sport%20horse


Specifically the picture labeled "Stock Horse".

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby Jorge » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:08 pm

I haven't read about this Thoroughbred being considered
a genuine appaloosa but certainly this Japanese juvenile
sports a very sui-generis phenotype that makes one ponder
on that possibility.

PICTURE:
https://twitter.com/hipismonet/status/5 ... 0002748418

PEDIGREE:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/buchiko

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby Jorge » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:32 am

Jorge wrote:I haven't read about this Thoroughbred being considered
a genuine appaloosa but certainly this Japanese juvenile
sports a very sui-generis phenotype that makes one ponder
on that possibility.

PICTURE:
https://twitter.com/hipismonet/status/5 ... 0002748418

PEDIGREE:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/buchiko


More evidence on this case:

PHOTO: http://www.veooz.com/photos/CH2cuku.html
PHOTO: http://twicsy.com/i/NnZtWg
PHOTO: http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au ... 52707.html
SEVERAL PHOTOS: http://www.foros.net/viewtopic.php?t=76 ... =TURFESPAA

SHIRAYUKUHIME PROGENY INFO: http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000309095/broodmare/info/

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby belambi » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:30 am

No.. No LP gene there.. just typical DW

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby Jorge » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:12 am

A fellow researcher just shared with me the following
“equineline” officially-registered curious case named “OSTENTIOUS”.

He is also at “Del Mar Pedigree Database”: OSTENTIOUS (AUS) (bay or br h 2004) http://www.pedigreequery.com/ostentious (Northern Chateau out of Speedingly)

Note that he is registered at equineline as a bay or brown horse foaled in Australia
on November 06, 2004, with 2 unplaced starts. Here is his photo at facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ColouredThorou ... =1&theater

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby belambi » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:05 pm

This is really one of the last possible ways of introducing spots... along the same method as Heathers Tobiano really.
Horse is called Ostentious
Listed as a non TB in the TB studbook, (so entitled to race)..and maybe the 8 generation rule?

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServ ... No=7439637

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/192 ... ntious.jpg

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby angrovestud » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:53 am

belambi wrote:This is really one of the last possible ways of introducing spots... along the same method as Heathers Tobiano really.
Horse is called Ostentious
Listed as a non TB in the TB studbook, (so entitled to race)..and maybe the 8 generation rule?

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServ ... No=7439637

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/192 ... ntious.jpg


Weatherbys have stopped licensing non TB stallions in the NTR now as glad we got in before they changed the rules ! it happened in 2012
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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby Pan Zareta » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:19 am

angrovestud wrote:Weatherbys have stopped licensing non TB stallions in the NTR now as glad we got in before they changed the rules ! it happened in 2012


Please clarify. Per the NTR 2015 Conditions of Entry non-TB stallions are still NTR eligible - as produce of NTR mares and/or as sires of NTR foals.

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Re: A legitimate way of introducing Appaloosa markings?

Postby angrovestud » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:57 am

Pan Zareta wrote:
angrovestud wrote:Weatherbys have stopped licensing non TB stallions in the NTR now as glad we got in before they changed the rules ! it happened in 2012


Please clarify. Per the NTR 2015 Conditions of Entry non-TB stallions are still NTR eligible - as produce of NTR mares and/or as sires of NTR foals.


If You had a stallion passported in anther stud book you can no longer have the stallion vetted and licensed as a V11 as a foundation sire so if I went out and bought a new spotty stallion that was registered and passported as a sports horse, I couldn't get it in the NTR

Yes you can still register stallions if they are by NTR stallions or NTR mares
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