Rocking Trick

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Postby madelyn » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:34 pm

I do own Miss Ballet aka Mack Truck.

Why do you ask?
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Postby Shergar » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:24 pm

Madelyn:

Just out of curiousity, what type of surface and distances did Schwank run?

Interesting pedigree for Schwank. Looks like she could have run all day on the turf. (IMHO)

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Postby madelyn » Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:08 am

I didn't own Schwank when she was racing.. she is one of those mares a trainer had that ended up here. All I know is what is on the APR.. she went 34-3-2-5 for $24,878 and never tried the lawn. She started 5 times at 2 and then her starts were pretty evenly divided between sprints and routes... and she is a Very Sound Mare. Probably would have been much better on the turf.. who knows? The trainer who had her was still learning at the time he raced her.

She retired with no injuries.. this will be her third foal (I have her huge, drop dead gorgeous '04 colt by Shadeed). She is a grand looking mare.
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Postby skeenan » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:29 am

madelyn wrote:Princess Omar has been at my farm for awhile... Bill from WA waxed poetical about her last year. She is from a truly lovely family.

I had her for sale but didn't get any buyers so she was bred to Rocking Trick. She is for sale in foal, I will probably put her on Starquine this week.

Anyhow, she probably sounds familiar because she has been discussed quite a bit.


Thanks! As I'm getting older, sometimes it's harder to "connect the dots", ha ha! :lol:

Good luck with her! I'll look for her photo...

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Postby Shergar » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:24 pm

Madelyn;

Thank you for the update on Schwank. Congrats on that beautiful colt by Shadeed. Very interesting pedigree. Look forward to someday following his racing career.

An acquaintance of mine has a broodmare by Shadeed. (Swill) I think next year they are going to send her to a nice turfy ky. stallion. Don't yet know who.

Swill has two nice full sisters by a ND line stallion. Both are stakes winners on the dirt, and winners on the turf. I think between the two of them, they have banked around 400k.

Again, I will be checking Schwank's progeny record on this database, As I assume you will enter this colt soon as he is named??

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Postby ZiaLand » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:20 pm

madelyn wrote:I do own Miss Ballet aka Mack Truck.

Why do you ask?


I'm very intrigued with her pedigree and her hypo with Rocky. Since her nickname is "Mack Truck" I have to assume she's BIG girl? LOL

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Postby madelyn » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:35 am

I am just sending the Shadeed's registration in.. he will be named soon. His stud certificate was tangled up in a big mess last year that didn't get sorted out until after March 18th (his real birthday), so the fee is higher and there was certainly no rush.. now it will be done before the next hike (Jan 1).

Regarding Miss Ballet, she is a big extremely powerful mare. She would have been a phenomenal turf horse. Nothing phases her nor slows her down... not deep mud, big hills, etc. etc. etc. You feel her coming (hence the "Mack Truck"). She does NOT like to be messed with. When I got her last winter she was already in foal and delivered a nice big filly that I sold as a sport horse prospect (the filly was by Waving Past - ??) The filly was born on March 4th; Miss Ballet was caught on her next heat. The pedigree matchup with Rocking Trick is a VERY intriguing one.. with Northern Dancer through two sons.. she brings in Princequillo through Milan Mill and Sharp Queen, Royal Charger, etc. etc. etc. One of Moscow Ballet's best early horses was produced from a granddaughter of Storm Bird. This was one of the matchups very strongly supported both by the physical AND the pedigree. I think here we hope for a filly...

I had been considering what out of my broodmare band to sell "in foal" to try to raise cash.. this is a mare I think I should hold. Her family is improving a LOT all the time. There is Grinch out there (half sister) and the offspring of Merry Krisoke.

In Miss Ballet's case I believe she has the ability to produce a fantastic horse. She just hasn't been given the opportunity in the past. I believe Rocking Trick has the versatility and pedigree to produce both dirt and turf horses. We will wait and see..

In terms of value, we don't see many Moscow Ballet mares here, but I believe that is more due to geography than anything else. He is a good broodmare sire, his best mares tend to stay "near" him, ie: in and around California. And of course we musn't forget Moscow Burning.
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Postby madelyn » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:24 pm

skeenan wrote:
madelyn wrote:Princess Omar has been at my farm for awhile... Bill from WA waxed poetical about her last year. She is from a truly lovely family.

I had her for sale but didn't get any buyers so she was bred to Rocking Trick. She is for sale in foal, I will probably put her on Starquine this week.

Anyhow, she probably sounds familiar because she has been discussed quite a bit.


Thanks! As I'm getting older, sometimes it's harder to "connect the dots", ha ha! :lol:

Good luck with her! I'll look for her photo...


Oh goodness, I know it is a bit off topic but I was THRILLED this morning to discover that Princess Omar's dam, Omaretta, was sent to Glitterman in 2003 and produced a live filly in '04... check out Golden Oriental.. here they have sent the daughter of a stakes producing dam to the horse she produced the graded stakes horse with.. hopefully this will be Very Good for Princess Omar!
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Postby hpkingjr » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:31 pm

Madelyn:
Were you joking about selling some of your mares? Which ones would you actually sell?

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Postby madelyn » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:43 am

Well... Glenfiddich Fire, Luv That Security, Queen of Coyle, maybe Carmel Ridge..
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Postby FOS » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:49 am

hello madelyn

I salute your passion...and your commitment to Rocking Trick.

The fact that he's out of a Storm Cat mare seems to offer him a unique appeal that few other Phone Trick's have been afforded. I also suggest that his second dam's sire Luthier (who from my perspective made a significant mark as a racehorse and as a sire)...injects a very interesting dimension that conjurs the possibility of dreams coming true at the classics distances.

Rocking Trick sounds like a wonderful horse and seems to offer plenty. It's easy to understand why you are so proud of him.

Continued success and best of luck in your venture.

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Postby madelyn » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:26 am

Thank you very much, FOS. Yes, I have faith and hope... the charity is all being eaten by the 32 equines outside.

I probably should have looked at selling shares or standing him elsewhere, but even this little farm is getting its share of outside mares for next year.

Rocking Trick won his first G1 race as a 2yo going 1600 meters (a mile); his next G1 win was a 1000 meter sprint (5f) in 54.33 seconds. He won on turf AND dirt, from 5f to 1 mi, closed for second by a nose at 1-1/6th mi. He was an extremely versatile horse, most likely owing to the mix of his pedigree you noted.

One thing a breeder gets when booking a mare to Rocking Trick is the ASSURANCE that he will still be here in Kentucky three years from now and beyond. I have been very turned off by the big farms' windmill approach to standing stallions and the very arrogance and dismissal of the interests of the mare owners. Using the methodology of "get the cash quick and up front and don't wait to see if any offspring are any good" runs along behind "you can fool some of the people some of the time." That's a big part of why, after spending a few years as a "spectator" in this industry, I chose to get my own stallion instead.
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Postby LSB » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:51 pm

madelyn, did you see that Rocking Trick's dam is being offered for sale at Keeneland in January?

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Postby Heidilady » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:53 am

Hypothetically what would Rocking Trick's dam bring at auction and is she in foal I assume? If so, to what stallion? Why not sell in November?

madelyn, Rocking Trick sounds lovely. I just love hearing the proud-mama talk but sounds like he's really nice based on objective opinions too which I'm sure you must love.

What about those mares lends you to being willing to part with them? Just curious.

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Postby Mahubah » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:52 am

I suspect that the reason Razzi Cat's entered for KeeJan rather than KeeSep is that she hasn't produced but one foal since 1998 according to the APR. (She does have a 2004 filly by Unbridled's Song.)
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