I need advice, actually probably a good shoulder to cry on as well.
A friend and I bought a weanling out of the WTBA winter sale 3 years
ago. We knew a bit about her, she had arrived at the consignors farm
with a bottle of tranquilizers and would climb the corner of her stall (abuse
was evident) yet, she had a look, and of course when she wasn't getting
a bid, we bought her.
She would weave back and forth when in an enclosed space, but other
than that , she was good until 2 when she went through a 5 foot high
board fence with no climb wire. She was scratched, but otherwise fine.
She kept learning that she was very strong.
Everything with her was a challenge. The farrier ended up in quite a
few brawls with her.
She went off to be trained. Spent 3 months with a "reputable" person,
and in Feb of 2004, she was taken to Portland to be continued on with
by our trainer. She came there very sick, and our trainer did not like
her. Told us to sell her to the Polo people. The original trainer, picked
her back up and said it was just because no one understood her.
So, she spent the part of the summer at Emerald Downs, and then
Yakima. She supposedly had four recorded works (I say supposedly read
on) and a fifth on Aug 1, 2004
I will add that I NEVER got to see her under tack. when I would go to see
a work, they would have worked early...etc.
So the trainer tells me that he is going to get her in a race in
August (she had not had gate approval or tatoo'd yet)
Then said someone had seen her work and did we want to sell her..
Then still no race and no works all of Aug,and September.
Then he drops her off at our farm the first week of October because
he said she had a bad stifle or something.....
I took her to a trainer at Portland Meadows (yet another) and he said
that when they jogged her she tied up . So they had the vet give her
the extended tranq and some other meds. She still tied up. Then they
tried to get her to the track.(Once again I was told that she had trained
at this track during the winter) and she went up and almost over twice.
The latest trainer doesn't want anything to do with her.
The more fit she gets, the more intimidating she becomes.
Her 2 yr old sister is in training in California, and although a big tough
girl, she is working nicely and has talent per good honest works.
I just hate to give up on this filly. Do I keep trying?
We want to do the best we can for her. There of course is a great deal
of emotional involvement beyond the significant financial one. This
one is a heartbreaker for me.
Help! Need advice
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Have you been in the game for a while or is this your first endeavor? From the sounds of this filly, she wasn't meant to be a race horse. If this is your first horse, you will find that there are plenty of horses with a ton of talent which never make it to the races. Mental stability and attitude are as important as any physical traits you can look for in an animal. Spare yourself and the filly continued aggravation, find her a good home. I don't mean to sound negative but you have too many things working against you, you will conitnue to spend money and probably wind up getting her or some person hurt.
best regards Brendan
No, certainly NOT our first endeavor.
The reality is that she is more smart that dangerous.
The question is; do you think that the trainer that had her from December
to October was at all truthful, or just taking my money ?
(Since I was never given an opportunity to see her under tack, let alone
work.)
.
The reality is that she is more smart that dangerous.
The question is; do you think that the trainer that had her from December
to October was at all truthful, or just taking my money ?
(Since I was never given an opportunity to see her under tack, let alone
work.)
.
suzd - I know that bcassidy's reply is probabally NOT what you were looking for when you posted. I suspect you wanted to hear of a 'cure' - some suggested techniques or substances or of some person specificly capable of 'calming' or figuring out horses' anxieties that might have worked to turn around this attractive and possibally talented filly's "issues".
I say that because I've personally gone through much - although not verbatim - of what you've described with one of our homebreds. Just as you've done today, I posted a "HELP" e-mail over a year and a half ago soliciting help in dealing with his ceaseless stall circling and sudden "fits", even when standing in his stall. The very kind and generous people of this Board tried to help me - first by suggesting (as bcassidy has above) that in all probability I should quit on him and then suggesting he might have ulcers, need Gastrogard or any number of 'natural' supplements such as beet pulp added to his diet. OR that he might be afraid of being without other equine company. OR perhaps he was bored. OR perhaps somewhere along the line he had been abused and was fearful. Mirrors in his stall, play toys to occupy him, even a goat to accompany and calm him were all suggested. T-touch, horse whisperers, Clicker training and equine psychics were not without their merits to me at this point as I was at my wits end trying to figure out how to get this horse sufficiently quieted down to race him. These and I'm sure a few things I've forgotten were all posted but with many warning that some horses - even very talented ones - are not of the make-up to make it at the track. This is why you often see posts or mentions within posts about the importance of temperment. For some thoroughbreds it is nigh impossible to expect that they can stay 'sane' while stalled 23 hrs out of each 24, never enjoying the close companionship of the herd, etc. Just as some humans could not survive in a structured office environment of a vertically integrated and hierachael company. They often thrive as outside sales persons or entrepreneurs but just can't hack it in an office/large company.
Well, now I'm trying to get my 'crazy boy' back home - that is as soon as I can find a shipper willing to pick up him AND his goat from W. Va. A shipper who can assure me that he and the goat will never be without other equine companions from W. Va. to Texas. When he gets here he'll still have all the "issues" that prevented him from ever realizing his full potential or talent as a race horse.
One thing I know is that he did have talent - his morning works were quite encouraging and he'd fight to stay in front, go thru horses and all of the things you want to see. And he did manage to break his maiden which is all the much better for his dam whom we have a weanling filly out of. So I guess those "learnings" may have been worth it but I have "bled" for this horse and his mishaps and "issues" every step of the way: financially and emotionally.
Despite his "talent" whatever level he may have theoreticly been capable of - come racetime he's just become quirkier and less enthusiastic with each out. I consider us lucky that he managed to break his maiden and stay sound.
Basically, this gelding has been telling us for more than two years and through four different trainers all of whom really tried to work with him and his "issues": through two major self-inflicted injuries and subsequent recoveries; through 8 lackluster performances that tantalized but almost always dissapointed that HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE RACING!
When I think about trying to find a good home for him, I realize that in reality I am prboabally bringing home my next 'riding' horse which means I'll have to sell my really nice and reliable QH of the past 4 years to stay in my horse owning budget. If you think it's hard to place an 'ex-racehorse, try placing one that has to have his goat with him. It definitely limits his opportunities.
Is he a 'rogue', a danger to others? NO but he is many times a danger to himself and he will not fit into an environment where he is stalled without loads of attention and constant tweaking of his handling/surroundings and routine. It's too bad that, like your filly, he's not at least capable of beign a broodmare as he just loves hanging out in a pasture with a bunch of other horses. He's also - amazingly - not a problem under saddle so I am hopeful he'll work out for me as a pasture based riding buddy.
IF you are determined to get this filly in a race you need to ask yourself "why" is it so important to you and "what" are you willing to spend to do so. Finally what will you accept as your measure of success? Simply getting her in a race? Getting her to start and finish a race? Getting her to win? Win at what level and cost? Put pen to paper and add up what you've spent and what you will spend and then ask yourself why 'racing' is the only thing that will satisfy you as an outcome for this filly. IF you are convinced that this filly can mentally make it to the track and that you are willing to pay that cost I would suggest that you need to go back to square one with this filly.
FIRST - FIND OUT IF SHE HAS A PHYSICAL REASON TO BE ANXIOUS/NERVOUS:
She may be in constant pain from unseen/unknown causes. Have her teeth checked - and I mean way in the back of her head at the jaw hinge which may require putting her under. Find a recommended and specializing equine dentist for this. Filing down the sharp points that often develope on a horse's teeth - especially those that are out of reach in the very back of the head - can dramaticly change a horse's behaviours. I would also suggest you have her scoped for ulcers or just put her on the medication to cure same and save the expense of the ulcer scoping as the medication is expensive enough. Once that has been done and run it's course, DO add beet pulp or some other product/medication that gives this filly lots of roughage and cuts down on her acid production to keep her tummy busy on something and not just churning out the acid til it hurts her constantly. Make sure she has large haynets of good fresh hay inside and outside her stall door - it should be there immediately upon her return from a work and be refreshed as needed all day long. Try different locations within the barn from the quietest corner to the busiest to see where she is most settled and happy. Have her vision checked to be sure she is not reacting to vision issues. Consider getting her a goat but forewarned - once she has one she'll obsess on it is my guess. She may also KILL the goat so realize you are putting the goat at some risk, too.
SECONDLY - IF - and only if - you see some positive and steady change for the better from the above: i.e no weaving, or at least very infrequent weaving; more friendly and responsive to handlers, more relaxed in her environs - consider re-training her from the ground up.
Recognise that this undertaking will be difficult/impossible for a regular racehorse trainer to accomodate - their barns run on a fairly tight schedule to get each horse his/her feeding, stall cleaning, grooming, inspection and treatments, tacked up and ridden out/exercised, cooled out and more inspections/treatment if needed, not to mention medications, vet checks, vaccinations, etc. Then there's the time at the barn/office visiting with jock agents, talking with and training if necessary your staff, entering races, reading the form, trying to convince the Management to write the kinds of races horses in your barn need. Calling clients, vets, farms, doing the books, paydayt, etc. to keep the whole process going, then in the afternoon the whole morning's process repeats itsself without the workouts/track exercising but then going on into the night if there's races to prep horses for. Your "problem" filly doesn't have a chance in that situation until and unless she can be made ready and reliabally able to be tacked, mounted and ridden/ponied to the track; to trot and/or canter properly about the oval and to leave under some degree of self control. She was supposed to learn all of that before she ever went to a regular track and now that she associates her anxiety with being at the track you've got an uphill road to try and overcome that association/acting out.
IF you can get find a reason such as ulcers and anxiety at being without "company" to explain your filly's behaviours you've got a slim chance of getting her to race and slimmer yet of getting her to win - once. But realize that that's the upside you're shooting for here and again ask yourself "why" you want this so badly and "what -i.e. dollar amount and timeline wise - is it worth to you to accomplish this.
IF you can find no reason for this filly's behaviour and no remedy then my advice is to not try and race her. There won't be any point if you can't get her to quiet down and relax.
I do wish you luck because I can tell from your post that you are involved in this filly because of your concern for her wellbeing - simply deciding not to try and race this filly only takes your problem from getting her raced to one of getting her re-trained for another career.
I say that because I've personally gone through much - although not verbatim - of what you've described with one of our homebreds. Just as you've done today, I posted a "HELP" e-mail over a year and a half ago soliciting help in dealing with his ceaseless stall circling and sudden "fits", even when standing in his stall. The very kind and generous people of this Board tried to help me - first by suggesting (as bcassidy has above) that in all probability I should quit on him and then suggesting he might have ulcers, need Gastrogard or any number of 'natural' supplements such as beet pulp added to his diet. OR that he might be afraid of being without other equine company. OR perhaps he was bored. OR perhaps somewhere along the line he had been abused and was fearful. Mirrors in his stall, play toys to occupy him, even a goat to accompany and calm him were all suggested. T-touch, horse whisperers, Clicker training and equine psychics were not without their merits to me at this point as I was at my wits end trying to figure out how to get this horse sufficiently quieted down to race him. These and I'm sure a few things I've forgotten were all posted but with many warning that some horses - even very talented ones - are not of the make-up to make it at the track. This is why you often see posts or mentions within posts about the importance of temperment. For some thoroughbreds it is nigh impossible to expect that they can stay 'sane' while stalled 23 hrs out of each 24, never enjoying the close companionship of the herd, etc. Just as some humans could not survive in a structured office environment of a vertically integrated and hierachael company. They often thrive as outside sales persons or entrepreneurs but just can't hack it in an office/large company.
Well, now I'm trying to get my 'crazy boy' back home - that is as soon as I can find a shipper willing to pick up him AND his goat from W. Va. A shipper who can assure me that he and the goat will never be without other equine companions from W. Va. to Texas. When he gets here he'll still have all the "issues" that prevented him from ever realizing his full potential or talent as a race horse.
One thing I know is that he did have talent - his morning works were quite encouraging and he'd fight to stay in front, go thru horses and all of the things you want to see. And he did manage to break his maiden which is all the much better for his dam whom we have a weanling filly out of. So I guess those "learnings" may have been worth it but I have "bled" for this horse and his mishaps and "issues" every step of the way: financially and emotionally.
Despite his "talent" whatever level he may have theoreticly been capable of - come racetime he's just become quirkier and less enthusiastic with each out. I consider us lucky that he managed to break his maiden and stay sound.
Basically, this gelding has been telling us for more than two years and through four different trainers all of whom really tried to work with him and his "issues": through two major self-inflicted injuries and subsequent recoveries; through 8 lackluster performances that tantalized but almost always dissapointed that HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE RACING!
When I think about trying to find a good home for him, I realize that in reality I am prboabally bringing home my next 'riding' horse which means I'll have to sell my really nice and reliable QH of the past 4 years to stay in my horse owning budget. If you think it's hard to place an 'ex-racehorse, try placing one that has to have his goat with him. It definitely limits his opportunities.
Is he a 'rogue', a danger to others? NO but he is many times a danger to himself and he will not fit into an environment where he is stalled without loads of attention and constant tweaking of his handling/surroundings and routine. It's too bad that, like your filly, he's not at least capable of beign a broodmare as he just loves hanging out in a pasture with a bunch of other horses. He's also - amazingly - not a problem under saddle so I am hopeful he'll work out for me as a pasture based riding buddy.
IF you are determined to get this filly in a race you need to ask yourself "why" is it so important to you and "what" are you willing to spend to do so. Finally what will you accept as your measure of success? Simply getting her in a race? Getting her to start and finish a race? Getting her to win? Win at what level and cost? Put pen to paper and add up what you've spent and what you will spend and then ask yourself why 'racing' is the only thing that will satisfy you as an outcome for this filly. IF you are convinced that this filly can mentally make it to the track and that you are willing to pay that cost I would suggest that you need to go back to square one with this filly.
FIRST - FIND OUT IF SHE HAS A PHYSICAL REASON TO BE ANXIOUS/NERVOUS:
She may be in constant pain from unseen/unknown causes. Have her teeth checked - and I mean way in the back of her head at the jaw hinge which may require putting her under. Find a recommended and specializing equine dentist for this. Filing down the sharp points that often develope on a horse's teeth - especially those that are out of reach in the very back of the head - can dramaticly change a horse's behaviours. I would also suggest you have her scoped for ulcers or just put her on the medication to cure same and save the expense of the ulcer scoping as the medication is expensive enough. Once that has been done and run it's course, DO add beet pulp or some other product/medication that gives this filly lots of roughage and cuts down on her acid production to keep her tummy busy on something and not just churning out the acid til it hurts her constantly. Make sure she has large haynets of good fresh hay inside and outside her stall door - it should be there immediately upon her return from a work and be refreshed as needed all day long. Try different locations within the barn from the quietest corner to the busiest to see where she is most settled and happy. Have her vision checked to be sure she is not reacting to vision issues. Consider getting her a goat but forewarned - once she has one she'll obsess on it is my guess. She may also KILL the goat so realize you are putting the goat at some risk, too.
SECONDLY - IF - and only if - you see some positive and steady change for the better from the above: i.e no weaving, or at least very infrequent weaving; more friendly and responsive to handlers, more relaxed in her environs - consider re-training her from the ground up.
Recognise that this undertaking will be difficult/impossible for a regular racehorse trainer to accomodate - their barns run on a fairly tight schedule to get each horse his/her feeding, stall cleaning, grooming, inspection and treatments, tacked up and ridden out/exercised, cooled out and more inspections/treatment if needed, not to mention medications, vet checks, vaccinations, etc. Then there's the time at the barn/office visiting with jock agents, talking with and training if necessary your staff, entering races, reading the form, trying to convince the Management to write the kinds of races horses in your barn need. Calling clients, vets, farms, doing the books, paydayt, etc. to keep the whole process going, then in the afternoon the whole morning's process repeats itsself without the workouts/track exercising but then going on into the night if there's races to prep horses for. Your "problem" filly doesn't have a chance in that situation until and unless she can be made ready and reliabally able to be tacked, mounted and ridden/ponied to the track; to trot and/or canter properly about the oval and to leave under some degree of self control. She was supposed to learn all of that before she ever went to a regular track and now that she associates her anxiety with being at the track you've got an uphill road to try and overcome that association/acting out.
IF you can get find a reason such as ulcers and anxiety at being without "company" to explain your filly's behaviours you've got a slim chance of getting her to race and slimmer yet of getting her to win - once. But realize that that's the upside you're shooting for here and again ask yourself "why" you want this so badly and "what -i.e. dollar amount and timeline wise - is it worth to you to accomplish this.
IF you can find no reason for this filly's behaviour and no remedy then my advice is to not try and race her. There won't be any point if you can't get her to quiet down and relax.
I do wish you luck because I can tell from your post that you are involved in this filly because of your concern for her wellbeing - simply deciding not to try and race this filly only takes your problem from getting her raced to one of getting her re-trained for another career.
jellac, as usual your awsome and thoughtful reply is much appreciated.
And, yes, my thoughts are to check her out for any physical problems
and get her on some massage therapy as well.
And yes, I am coming to terms with the fact that she is not going to make
it. But I am still stinging from the year that went by with this trainer who
kept giving me all the positive feedback of how fabulous she was going
to be, and that she was like riding a caddy, and that she was the "star"
of his barn. That is indecent ! And I am upset with myself for buying into
those lines. I know better than that.
And, yes, my thoughts are to check her out for any physical problems
and get her on some massage therapy as well.
And yes, I am coming to terms with the fact that she is not going to make
it. But I am still stinging from the year that went by with this trainer who
kept giving me all the positive feedback of how fabulous she was going
to be, and that she was like riding a caddy, and that she was the "star"
of his barn. That is indecent ! And I am upset with myself for buying into
those lines. I know better than that.
Wow, thanks for the reading. I can totally relate and understand both posts. I have been in similiar positions but I have to say that both of mine turned out for the best. Both were just about as bad as listed....The only thing I can say with mine is a GREAT patient trainer that took the time to be there for the animal for trust yet disaplined for bad behaviors.
I cant tell you to give up or not. But just wanted to say "I understand totally"
I cant tell you to give up or not. But just wanted to say "I understand totally"
As it is always possible to have a horse with very much troubles, from
any order, sometimes it ends in good. But this is almost a couple of %.
I,am having a racing filly, that is extemely eager in every way, although
i,ve to say, she is not mad. She has a girl who rides her in training,
she knows her, galloping over the road back to the stable after her work
outing. The trainers place is quiet then, and nothing stands in her way
as everyone knows this is gooiing to happen every day.
She gooiing out in the pasture, where she stays galopping for as long as she,s out.
By accident she was brought to the pasture, where a couple of yearling
fillies were. The moment she saw them, she was quiet and become a stepmother for them, not galloping at all as a fanatic as usual.
I,ve to say that our trainer is having patience, is honest and know that the
horse has to come to hands out off itself and not by pushing.
So I wish you luck,and wisdom with your decision.
any order, sometimes it ends in good. But this is almost a couple of %.
I,am having a racing filly, that is extemely eager in every way, although
i,ve to say, she is not mad. She has a girl who rides her in training,
she knows her, galloping over the road back to the stable after her work
outing. The trainers place is quiet then, and nothing stands in her way
as everyone knows this is gooiing to happen every day.
She gooiing out in the pasture, where she stays galopping for as long as she,s out.
By accident she was brought to the pasture, where a couple of yearling
fillies were. The moment she saw them, she was quiet and become a stepmother for them, not galloping at all as a fanatic as usual.
I,ve to say that our trainer is having patience, is honest and know that the
horse has to come to hands out off itself and not by pushing.
So I wish you luck,and wisdom with your decision.
SuzyD,
I think you should trust your gut feeling that the trainer in question was probably taking your money. You have had two other trainers tell you that they think that she is not racehorse material.
Looking at her record to date as you have relayed to us, I see that she is:
Very nervous (weaves);
Tries to climb out of the stall;
Tends to tie up repeatedly;
Has found out she can run through fences;
Fights with the farrier;
Refuses to go to the racetrack to train;
And that all this behaviour has been going on since she was a weanling.
I think that this filly very likely does have a physical, neurological, or chemical imbalance problem, but I also think it may be very hard to find. I sense you are not ready to give up on her yet. Do you have a good vet clinic in your area to evaluate her? I think that unless you can rule out physical reasons for her behaviour, I have to agree with the others that she she does not want to be a racehorse, and is likely to hurt herself and others.
I wish you luck with her. Please keep us posted.
I think you should trust your gut feeling that the trainer in question was probably taking your money. You have had two other trainers tell you that they think that she is not racehorse material.
Looking at her record to date as you have relayed to us, I see that she is:
Very nervous (weaves);
Tries to climb out of the stall;
Tends to tie up repeatedly;
Has found out she can run through fences;
Fights with the farrier;
Refuses to go to the racetrack to train;
And that all this behaviour has been going on since she was a weanling.
I think that this filly very likely does have a physical, neurological, or chemical imbalance problem, but I also think it may be very hard to find. I sense you are not ready to give up on her yet. Do you have a good vet clinic in your area to evaluate her? I think that unless you can rule out physical reasons for her behaviour, I have to agree with the others that she she does not want to be a racehorse, and is likely to hurt herself and others.
I wish you luck with her. Please keep us posted.
I just love it.... this only happens to people who pay their bills... lol..
Two simple yes or no questions...
did you buy the horse to race??
or to baby sit??
Horses can either run or they can't it is that simple... when working out of gates in company at home and they can't out run the pony horse ... what makes you think running in a race would turn out different???
If this is not your first horse... haven't you ever followed an exercise rider around or listened to other trainers talking to owners.... they tell everyone the same thing... your horse is improving and looking good... she really wanted to run this morning.. I had to hold her back... did not get drawn in ... waiting on the right race... she will tell us when she is ready to run... (ever have a horse call you to just chat on the phone.. NO??)...
so wise up... your trainers are just floating this minimal horse for the monthly fees... nice profit margin for just standard full care stabling...
dump her to a rescue bunch and pool your money and buy you a claimer.. and then go to the races... and enjoy.... texas...
Two simple yes or no questions...
did you buy the horse to race??
or to baby sit??
Horses can either run or they can't it is that simple... when working out of gates in company at home and they can't out run the pony horse ... what makes you think running in a race would turn out different???
If this is not your first horse... haven't you ever followed an exercise rider around or listened to other trainers talking to owners.... they tell everyone the same thing... your horse is improving and looking good... she really wanted to run this morning.. I had to hold her back... did not get drawn in ... waiting on the right race... she will tell us when she is ready to run... (ever have a horse call you to just chat on the phone.. NO??)...
so wise up... your trainers are just floating this minimal horse for the monthly fees... nice profit margin for just standard full care stabling...
dump her to a rescue bunch and pool your money and buy you a claimer.. and then go to the races... and enjoy.... texas...
I STARTED OUT WITH NOTHING...
AND STILL HAVE MOST OF IT...
AND STILL HAVE MOST OF IT...
[quote="madelyn"]... how did he manage to get her entered in a "race" to get a "fifth" without a lip tattoo?[/quote]
No tattoo...how could she have been raced? I think someone has been pulling your leg and taking your money.
I'd throw her out in the pasture and let her be a horse for the winter. Next spring, find her another job. She sure sound's like she doesn't like to race.
No tattoo...how could she have been raced? I think someone has been pulling your leg and taking your money.
I'd throw her out in the pasture and let her be a horse for the winter. Next spring, find her another job. She sure sound's like she doesn't like to race.
Laissez les bon temps rouller!
My original statement;
"She supposedly had four recorded works (I say supposedly read
on) and a fifth on Aug 1, 2004 "
She never got close to a race. And my thought about the works
is that if the current trainer could not even get her to the track, what
horse actually worked under her name?????
And yes, I think I was being lied to .
Thus, my dilema......if the trainer that had her from Dec thru October
really did nothing with her, she doesn't deserve the current trainer's
chriticism because she really has not been given a chance.
Thanks to all for the great suggestions and support.
"She supposedly had four recorded works (I say supposedly read
on) and a fifth on Aug 1, 2004 "
She never got close to a race. And my thought about the works
is that if the current trainer could not even get her to the track, what
horse actually worked under her name?????
And yes, I think I was being lied to .
Thus, my dilema......if the trainer that had her from Dec thru October
really did nothing with her, she doesn't deserve the current trainer's
chriticism because she really has not been given a chance.
Thanks to all for the great suggestions and support.
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MY personal opinion - you're obsessing. You were lied to by your trainer(s). Its not a working filly. She doesn't have the wherewhithal to become a working filly. You can't determine if she is a paying fillly if she doesn't work. If you still don't want to give up on her, take the advice of an above poster, which seemed very sensible, and put her out for a while and let her be a horse. Never forget that TB Racehorses are asked to be very adult while they are still babies. If you can afford it, give her a year off and try again, from the ground up. Personally, this is a horse I would find another carreer for. Your money needs to go to the ones that fit into the racehorse mold and she doesn't. If you think she must be a racer, then give her a chance to be a later starter. Then take her there yourself, so you can reley on your own judgement. don't have the time or money or wherewithal to do that? Give her to someone who does, and makes her something she is better suited for.
OK, that's my opinion, and though I am not a race horse owner, I know horses and people and I really really know money and business. I think you should let her go. Atleast stand back and consider that.
Cheryl
OK, that's my opinion, and though I am not a race horse owner, I know horses and people and I really really know money and business. I think you should let her go. Atleast stand back and consider that.
Cheryl
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket!
suzyd,
sometimes it is better giving up a dream, the ruining your pocket money.
If you really would give her a change take her for the winter, bring
her out into rural pasture, 7 days a week night and day.
Get her checked by the vet early spring.
And try to find someone who starts from zero with an opportunity to bring
her out in pasture, after working, and get yourself a good insurance policy.
Sometimes it is really ends up in no good at all.
I think she hasn,t had any work at all. To dangerous to handle
sometimes it is better giving up a dream, the ruining your pocket money.
If you really would give her a change take her for the winter, bring
her out into rural pasture, 7 days a week night and day.
Get her checked by the vet early spring.
And try to find someone who starts from zero with an opportunity to bring
her out in pasture, after working, and get yourself a good insurance policy.
Sometimes it is really ends up in no good at all.
I think she hasn,t had any work at all. To dangerous to handle