BenB wrote:The study confirms just what I have been written for many yrs, an horse proned for bleeding is gooiing to bleed no matter lasix or not.
Lasix will even not lessen that. It does not allivate even.
I presume this is gooiing to be an hard and bitter fight in the US.
Lasix is just what it is an race enhacer (diuretic) imho and this is what almost the rest of the world thinks from it.
Rasix without lasix will clean up racing in the US and enforce trainers to different training methods.
Hi Ben,
Again, this was an observational study....which has no scientific reasoning behind it. As this debate grows in America.....non-scientific reports such as this, will do more harm then good to the anti-lasix crowd. The definitive study on lasix worldwide is the South African study (funded by the anti-lasix JC and the Grayson foundation to prove lasix was not beneficial to the horse which obviously backfired on them). It may even turn the tide in the opposite direction where Euro racing will understand the American point of view. This from Kent Stirling National HBPA Medication Committee Chairman, on the South African scientific study where Dr. Morely (one of the vets who performed the S. African study) is quoted:
It turns out The Jockey Club had many conversations with Dr. Morely about his research with which they apparently weren’t too happy, and apparently they were less happy with him when he refused to reexamine it or to look at it from a different perspective such as increased performance for the horse – something the study was not set up to do.
The South African study clearly displayed that “pre-race administration of furosemide [Salix/Lasix] markedly decreased both the incidence and severity of EIPH in the Thoroughbred race horse racing in South Africa.” The authors were quoted about their study as follows:
“The challenge will now be for countries such as Australia, England, Hong Kong, and South Africa that do not currently permit race-day use of furosemide to balance the animal-welfare aspect of being able to prevent or reduce the condition against the imperatives for drug-free racing.”
Apparently, those countries mentioned in the above quote felt that just because Lasix was proven efficacious in preventing EIPH, there was no reason to remove their heads from the sand in which they were buried and worry about the health and welfare of the horse (and admit those damn Yankees were right all along about Lasix).
Dr. Morely stated that he was surprised how their research had been received, “Their conclusions (from around the world) don’t seem to follow science.”
.....full text found here,
http://www.hbpa.org/HorsemensJournalDis ... key1=13747
Seems the Euro's for some reason, seldom discuss what actually goes in in their country concerning the use of lasix. Nor do they acknowledge the science behind lasix and the benefits it creates as documented in the S. African scientific study. The EHLSC (European Horserace Scientific Liaison Committee) who comprises the Racing Authorities of France, Ireland, UK, Germany, Italy and Scandinavia clearly shows lasix use detection times within 48 hours plus or minus. Clenbuterol is also listed among a host of other drugs used in training. Funny such detection times exists, when the world believes they are drug free. TJ
https://www.ehslc.com/images/uploads/do ... 270813.pdf
