Tiznow

austique · Postby **austique** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:29 pm

He seems pretty dead right now. Anyone seeing anything on the horizon?

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:54 am

I hope he is not a one horse stallion. Maybe he will get it in gear when his next crop surfaces.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:06 am

I found these negatives in Tiznow's pedigree.

The negatives are Nice Dancer by Northern Dancer---Pia Star, by Olympia---Prince Blessed by, Princequillo---and Seattle Song by Seattle Slew.

These under performing individuals are tilting Tiznow's stallion producing ability.

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:05 am

Stallion's runner production ebbs and flows. I'm sure Tiznow will have many good horses hit the track in the coming months.

FOS · Postby **FOS** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:47 am

hi zinn21

zinn21 wrote:Stallion's runner production ebbs and flows. I'm sure Tiznow will have many good horses hit the track in the coming months.

I sense that your choice of the words sure and many (which I bolded) might be a bit optimistic.
Certainly it might happen...but based on what I've seen thus far, I have my doubts.

Best to you.

Respectfully

HR LLC · Postby **HR LLC** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:01 pm

He is really cold right now but his sales numbers are still strong thus far in 2006.

austique · Postby **austique** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:10 pm

I'm really quite floored by it. I don't know I guess I thought he'd have some nice 3yos pop up mid-year and nada. He's icy, icy cold.

And before the "his oldest foals are 3yos" minions pop up, I know that. I can read, but its surprising that such a well-regarded young sire who got off to a fairly promising start with a very nice young filly is so cold at this point in time.

FloridaGators · Postby **FloridaGators** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:42 pm

Though I haven't looked into the specific numbers... I suspect that part of Tiznow's problem is a lack of soundness in his foals. His sire is notorious for unsound progeny, and many of his full siblings had difficulty staying in training. Just a thought...

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:06 am

Lack of success for Tiznow would be very disappointing for the tail male line of Man O' War, in which I have a lot of interest. Do you think Tizbud will have the same problems, or is there hope for him?

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:55 am

Being a full brother to Tiznow, we will have to wait and see how Tizbud will be delt a set of genes positive or negative.

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:30 pm

Wasn't Tiznow a bit of a late developer? Maybe his foals are going to be that way too. I remember reading they were actually (pleasantly) surprised when Folklore popped up so early. But I hope that isn't his claim to fame, he's such a nice horse.

Intrinsic Worth · Postby **Intrinsic Worth** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:11 pm

Folklore's dam is also by Storm Cat, so I wasn't too surprised by her earlier success, or her early retirement.

austique · Postby **austique** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:18 pm

I wonder if due to his size he may be getting foals with OCD problems simply because he was a hot young sire and they'd go through the prepping mill.

He got 5 or 6 yearlings last year that sold below $10,000 and you would have to think that was bad x-rays. Maybe somebody who's looked at a few would have an idea?

sparta · Postby **sparta** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:39 pm

He has a couple of three year old colts--Enforcement and Well Armed--who were discussed in glowing terms earlier in the year. I guess they've gone the way of the injury box, however--I haven't heard anything about them lately.