The Wood and The Santa Anita

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The Wood and The Santa Anita

Postby jagger » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:58 am

Any thoughts on today's Wood and Santa Anita? Look for a good showing from Summer Doldrums in The Wood and Bwana Bull in The Santa Anita. While needing still more distance for their true worth to show, both may surprise.

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Postby George William Smith » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:21 am

:D
I've posted the horses according to their genetic strength scores (GSV and GSV2) on my web site.

This year compared to the last couple shows much lower scores but I'm not sure of the reason. A couple of top scoring horses in the entire top 30 horses vying for the crown.

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lower GSV's

Postby jagger » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:42 am

I've noticed the overall lower GSV's as well, George, and "don't know what to make of it" (ala Larry King :lol: ) I've also noticed that the conduit mare scores for stamina are up considerably this year with at least a half dozen Derby bound horses with excellent scores. You have to like Hard Spun eh (my only Canadian speech remnant :lol:), George? Just read where he might skip The Bluegrass :cry:

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Postby geowarrior » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:26 am

Hi, I lived in Canada long enough to do Canadian too, eh? I've always liked Summer Doldrums, so I'm hoping for a big showing for him. Don't like Bwana Bull so much, I don't think he's top flight. Don't like Nobiz either, Any Given Saturday is a much more mature racer.

Don't forget the Illinois Derby, most interesting to see whether Cobalt Blue is holding up.

I've been anxiously following the Hard Spun issue, and am wondering if there is something wrong for connections to be making the statements that they have.

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Postby Topsmeade » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:52 am

Bounce- Any Given Saturday, a much more proffesional performance and win for No Biz, Doldrums for the place.

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Postby madelyn » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:03 pm

Interesting they have taken AGS out of the Bluegrass and put him in the Wood. Could they think a more fit Street Sense would be tougher? Of course I'm rooting for Summer Doldrums.
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Postby reenci » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:57 pm

madelyn wrote:Interesting they have taken AGS out of the Bluegrass and put him in the Wood. Could they think a more fit Street Sense would be tougher? Of course I'm rooting for Summer Doldrums.



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Postby geowarrior » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:59 pm

So what did people think of the run by Nobiz? The win seemed easy enough but I was still left with doubts.

Summer Doldrums was a disappointment. I didn't realize he is so small in comparison with some of the others.

I think Any Given Saturday was tired after his Tampa Bay Derby effort. However, I'm not surprised he was run here because he was too low on the graded earnings list for comfort. Now he should be safely in to the Derby and with a longer rest he could put in a bigger performance next time out.

The most surprising thing to me was Jerry Bailey's criticism of the ride of Nobiz's jockey. Not that I have any thoughts on the ride itself, it just seemed odd that he was so openly critical. That's his job, I guess, but it's not so long since he was riding with these guys.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:14 pm

The ONLY horse that impressed me as a 1 1/4 mile horse is Sightseek. Tiago simply passed an exhausted bunch.
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Postby George William Smith » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:42 pm

Aw Rokeby ..... your answer tells me you didn't bet the high GSV in the Santa Anita derby and come home with a pocketful of money like I did.....Pretty smug of me, eh....note the Canadian question.....eh.... Of course I had as much on Sightseeing and just missed....Arghh. the high GSV in that race.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:51 pm

Can we all agree that God listened to prayers and that Cobalt Blue was awful? Now we don't have to see Merv Griffin on TV every day for the next month singing offkey renditions of "My Old Kentucky Home."

The only thing that concerns me about Sightseek...a Pulpit at 1 1/4 mile? Pleasant Colony on the bottom is going to have to overcome a lot on the sire side. Let's hope so. There's no finer horseman around than Shug McGaughey.
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Postby Mahubah » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:58 pm

I have to admit that I was impressed with Sightseeing's race -- I thought he looked like a big gawky kid and still rather green going down the backstretch, but he closed with good determination. Don't know that he'll really be ready for the Derby, but he might be one to watch later in the year; with Pleasant Colony as damsire, there's reason to think he may continue to improve.

Did anyone else think that Reporting For Duty got cut off from what might have been a winning or at least contending move in the Illinois Derby? No fault of the winner; the interference came from the third-place horse, Bold Start, who appeared to me to swerve inside as Reporting For Duty tried to come up between horses. The chart says "exchanging a bump" for Reporting For Duty, but it looked to me like he got hit first, lost a lot of momentum, and had to regroup.

I thought King of the Roxy ran a nice race and certainly stayed on better than I anticipated, especially given that he got a wide trip, but I just don't see him as a 1-1/4 mile horse even though his ability to rate off the pace should stand him in good stead in future races. A final 1/8 mile in 13.49 isn't exactly reassuring for anyone here, though -- Tiago would have run the split a little faster since he was about 2-1/2 lengths behind at the stretch call, and on pedigree he's another who figures to improve as he continues maturing. Nobiz didn't exactly light up the timers with his final eighth either, though he did look more focused today than he has in previous races.
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Postby jagger » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:42 pm

Always good to get your sage wisdom, Avalyn. I can hear your voice in your writing. Very pleasant.

Tiago was my pick using my homemade system. Sightseeing's performance was not a surprise. King of the Roxy was a surprise as he does not score well in my system. I think he will not be able to overcome the many horses with better numbers than he has in that last furlong. He is certainly an overachiever though.

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Sorry we missed our Florida trip as promised but I had a little bout with a pulmonary embolus in February. Are you planning any trips to Kentucky in the near future?

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Postby George William Smith » Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:51 pm

Pulpit has no distance limitations....in fact the exact is true. His pedigree reads a ton of stamina throughout....his AWD in North America at 7.62 translated to 10 furlongs in England although the stats are from my 2006 sire book and since he is relatively young could well go up from there.

Since I recommended him to my clients as a potential sire, I have almost had hate mail suggesting I was off my rocker. Well, he's still in KY, and still siring class horses despite the hardboots trying to knock him down every shot

small minds! period... don't bother to think or do the data....just remember the one who broke down and he produces unsoundness because remember he went off to stud from unsoundness.

By the way, after hitting the high GSV in Tiaga in the Derby despite a maiden, the high ARG bred Maktub netted me and those who downloaded my picks on the SA card another winner at 26.00/1 Probably never have another day like that.

Oh and yeah, I have a nice filly called Rutherienne that was bred by Virginia Kraft Payson by Pulpit out of a another product of mine Ruthian. Rutherienne is undefeated so far and I want her to get better as she goes longer as planned....Mrs Payson could sure raise some nice stock. :D

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:00 pm

GWS - I always enjoy reading your comments.

Could my opinion be based on Pulpit siring so many unsound offspring? I think we can agree that Pulpits do have their problems, and maybe several that would be 1 1/4 mile types simply never get the opportunity to try the distance.

I think Sky Mesa is a good case in point. He got hurt after winning the Hopeful, and when he returned as a 3 year old (for only 3 races), he did run in the Travers in his final start but reinjured himself in that race.

Corinthian is another. Nut as he is, he was developing nicely as a three year old when he injured himself prior to the KY Derby. He returned this year to win at Gulfstream, but it's a question whether he'll stay sound enough to face a top field at 1 1/4 mile.

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