"old trainers' secret recipes"

[halfpint23]

OK, somebody on here MUST know this!

Some years back, our youngsters were being started by a fellow who's something of a legend in these parts.... older gent of Mexican descent, who came here as a boy and has been working with TBs ever since. He brought over a jar of his "special leg sweat" to treat a strain on a youngster, and boy, did it work. Smelled AWFUL (of course) and he wouldn't give up the recipe (of course).

I hounded him for a year or more - he finally admitted it had furacin ointment, DMSO, and "white liniment" in it. I googled around for a looong time before finding "white liniment" in gallon jugs - yep, there's that ammonia smell! I even gifted him with a gallon for Christmas, as he said he got it out of Canada and couldn't find it anymore, and it was the stuff he was talking about.

BUT, I can't reproduce the salve as he used it. His was a creamy yellow and kind of runny-ish salve - no matter how I mix the proportions, mine is clear yellow and runny and doesn't work at all, though it does sting like fury... and stink.

Can anyone here tell me what the heck he used? It was GREAT for sweating a leg, either under wraps or not, and it helped my arthritic hands too! Recipes welcomed

[Roger]

It kind of sounds like what an old trainer used to call Alligator P...... that He would use equal parts DMSO, vinagar, ammonia, and a glob of furacin. The consistancy dependend on how big the glob was in relation to amount of mixture. I have never heard of white linament, what was in it.
It would seem that you could make it as thick as you wanted to by adjusting the glob. Alligator P...... could blister if you leave it on more than 5 or 6 hours. I have had just as much luck with 25% ball solution, 25% alcoholl and 50% DMSO. I like to take old velux blankets and cut them up into wraps and use these under the celliphane(sp) for what I call a cold sweat.

[halfpint23]

Amazingly, White Liniment is a packaged product - although I'm pretty certain it is not worth 10% of the retail pricing, given what's in the stuff!

http://www.durvet.com/prods/WHITE_252/DetailSheet.html

The mess that this man made up never blistered under wraps - not real sure why, either, as it did seem to be strong. Some of these old timers on the backside have all of this knowledge in their heads, it's sometimes useful and sometimes not, I guess.

Alligator P..... sounds interesting too! thanks.

[scrappyt]

I don't know anything about this, but I am searching for a recipe that I learned from someone on the track too. For a solution they called "Pain Away". It was used on everything - under bandages, to draw out from wounds...
It was sort of a clearish light yellow color witha sweet sort of odor.
If anyone knows anything about Pain Away, i'd appreciate the help

[Rokeby Forever]

It was sort of a clearish light yellow color witha sweet sort of odor.

It wasn't sweet in odor, but Mr Miller had a recipe for poultice made with mustard seeds. The stuff was the absolute BEST for drawing out heat - better than even clay or mud.

[horsenuts]

It was sort of a clearish light yellow color witha sweet sort of odor.

It wasn't sweet in odor, but Mr Miller had a recipe for poultice made with mustard seeds. The stuff was the absolute BEST for drawing out heat - better than even clay or mud.

Lots of old recipes were astounding at the results they could produce. Then the vets came on the scene about 40 years back and the rest is history. Horses today are treated much more like the MLB players we all read and heard about today as per the Mitchel report then how they were tended to decades back.


The Racing HoF museum has many recipes for horses as hand written by HoF trainers involving leg medications... tying-up remedies and an assortment of other treatments for maladies unique to the equine.

[valerie]

Are you sure he wasn't using liquid furacin? They took that off the market years back and the last time I got some it came from Canada.

[halfpint23]

Are you sure he wasn't using liquid furacin? They took that off the market years back and the last time I got some it came from Canada.

Nope, when he ran down his (probably incomplete) ingredient list, he said the only thing he was not able to find anymore was the white liniment - and some buddy of his had got it in Canada for him. He was down to his last pint and was keeping it dear.

Now, he's NOT computer literate, in fact I don't even know if they HAVE a computer - well, maybe for the kids, but Teyo will likely never be surfing
He was pretty tickled to get a gift of a full new gallon jug, which was his Christmas gift from us last year. Wish all people were that easy to shop for!

I haven't seen liquid furacin in like twenty years! Wish I could find that again.

[Hold Your Peace]

OK, somebody on here MUST know this!

Some years back, our youngsters were being started by a fellow who's something of a legend in these parts.... older gent of Mexican descent, who came here as a boy and has been working with TBs ever since. He brought over a jar of his "special leg sweat" to treat a strain on a youngster, and boy, did it work. Smelled AWFUL (of course) and he wouldn't give up the recipe (of course).

I hounded him for a year or more - he finally admitted it had furacin ointment, DMSO, and "white liniment" in it. I googled around for a looong time before finding "white liniment" in gallon jugs - yep, there's that ammonia smell! I even gifted him with a gallon for Christmas, as he said he got it out of Canada and couldn't find it anymore, and it was the stuff he was talking about.

BUT, I can't reproduce the salve as he used it. His was a creamy yellow and kind of runny-ish salve - no matter how I mix the proportions, mine is clear yellow and runny and doesn't work at all, though it does sting like fury... and stink.

Can anyone here tell me what the heck he used? It was GREAT for sweating a leg, either under wraps or not, and it helped my arthritic hands too! Recipes welcomed

The mixture you describe sounds almost exactly like a product sold under the name "Krud Zapper" which is based on an "old time recipe" (It's a creamy, yellow, smelly, messy, product). Karla Wolfson (wife and assistant to successful trainer Marty Wolfson) makes and sells this product. A lot of trainers around the country are using this product and love it.

Website is:

http://www.krudzapper.com/