Imawildandcrazyguy - Brooklyn H.

Pacific Classic · Postby **Pacific Classic** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:17 pm

Is the guy who trains this horse nuts or what? Trained him from a come from way behind horse (4th in the Derby), 6th in the Belmont S. last year, 4th in the Haskell H. (1 1/4), all from 10 or 20 lengths out of it, to sprinting, back to route, back to a 1 1/16, ships to NY and one week from shipping in by truck from Miami, runs him in a 1 1/2 Gr. 2...and goes to the front from the break. Poor guy finished last by 50 or more.

What a shame - this horse could be well over a million in earnings. Sad the horse ended up with Kaplan. He has embarrassed himself, the owners and worst, the horse. Shame on him.

Anyone who has appreciated this blue collar horse - let your opinions be heard - kaplanhorseracing.com .

I've asked it before, why would owners continue to allow their horse to be so carelessly managed and not make a change?

Toccet02 · Postby **Toccet02** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:43 pm

That sucks. I like this horse.
Thanks forthe comments address!

ClockerQ · Postby **ClockerQ** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:44 pm

I agree with u 100%. But u forgot to mention that this moron has kept the horse in training for over a year. Hasn't turned him out at all. No rest. Using him like a machine. I saw him at Tampa Bay this spring. His connections had a pretty big guest (investors) group. These losers r using him to bring in $. They could give a s... about the horse.

LKR · Postby **LKR** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:34 pm

I have watched this horse and everything you state is true. I have asked the trainer by e-mail what the heck they were thinking of but of course no answer. They have used the sh*t out of him over and over for well over a year. He has been running since at least Dec. of 2006. He is an iron horse apparently. We own his broodmare sire, Top Account, and it just breaks my heart when I see him entered, over and over and perform so poorly. They should be embarassed and ashamed.

ClockerQ · Postby **ClockerQ** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:37 pm

Thought his idiot trainer would see the light and give him some time off after his disaster race at Belmont. But no, i just noticed another workout. Look for him in the entries soon.

cindylou · Postby **cindylou** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:25 pm

I hope everybody harrasses these idiots with emails and perhaps they will give the poor horse a rest. I have followed him since before his derby run. love the blue collar horses. They are running the horse into the ground. But we have seen these money hungry idiots do this before. The owners of Lava Man did the same thing ran the horse until he was exhausted. Despite pleas from fans to lay off the horse.

oceancolors79 · Postby **oceancolors79** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:55 pm

bumping with my rant.

Any other crazyguy fans here? I am a fanatic. I am so upset at these greedy owners and trainer. This gallant guy has been in training since he was a 2 year old...to the best of my knowledge he has not had ANY turn out time - at all. Of course he came in 4th in the Derby in 07 but he has been running steadily every 3-5 (with some exception) weeks his whole career. I believe he has 28 starts or so as of today. This guy can run all day but every horse deserves to be a horse for some time as a break. He has won them over 500k and has potential to have a long career (I had hope of a tin man or BTN like career but you get the picture!) if they would give him a damn break!!! Not only this but they were running him in all distances from sprints to classic and in races where he should not be. I wonder what they are thinking. they are thinking they are a greedy partnership that will suck every penny out of him.

I've been ranting about this for awhile now but today I got a notification that he is entered to run at Calder on 8/23. He just ran on 8/16! ugh!! Yes, I realize that many horses run hard, harder than they should, especially lower level claimers but every horse needs a fan to watch over them

ok, end rant. thanks for listening. here's wishing imawildandcrazyguy a safe trip this weekend.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:15 pm

I am one who believes horses can be ran more than what we are used to running them like.. if a horse is healthy I don't see why he can't make a start a month, which is about what he has been making when you look at it.

I am not so much concerned about the amount of races as much as I am the class he is in. give him a damn chance why don't you. he is not a graded stakes calibur horse.

oceancolors79 · Postby **oceancolors79** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:37 pm

well I do agree that if he is sound and happy why not race him but my feelings are that he should get some R&R, every horse should. I dont know, maybe he is one of those horses that are miserable away from track life...but even so i feel they all deserve some rest. IMHO.

these stakes races he has been in lately are 55k calder "stakes" races. but that race at belmont in june was ridiculous. he barely finished. i think he could have been a decent lower stakes caliber horse with a nice long earning career given proper training, but that's just me.

ClockerQ · Postby **ClockerQ** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:44 pm

HORSES PEAK AND THEN THEY TAIL OFF. WHEN THEY TAIL OFF THEY SHOULD be given a little time off to rest and recharge and then the trainer will bring him back to peak form. imawild has never had that break. i saw him run at tampa and the stable had about 15 "guests". it was obvious to me that they were showcasing him with the intent on bringing in investors. i have no proof. just going on experience. he has no kick, no burst of speed anymore. hes flat and needs some time off. his connections r too stupid and greedy to realize this. they r sacrificing the welfare of this horse for the purpose of bringing in more $ to their operation. i think that sucks.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:45 pm

even in the old days they would run 15-16 times a year, but take 3-4 months off.

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:50 pm

It's a combination of the frequency of running, lack of breaks, amount of shipping, and bad spotting of the horse. It's as though they just want to squeeze every last penny out of him in minimal races rather than stopping for a freshening and putting together a plan.

Linda_d · Postby **Linda_d** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:58 am

bdw0617 wrote:even in the old days they would run 15-16 times a year, but take 3-4 months off.

You are so right, bdw. Until the 1930s and the opening of Hialeah and Santa Anita, racing was mostly a three season sport: spring, summer, fall, so horses were campaigned hard and then given a break during the winter. Even after racing became year-round, many horses were still given a break, especially in the winter, both from tradition and from the fact that it didn't pay to ship all your horses to Florida or California, especially the ones that weren't doing well.

Toccet02 · Postby **Toccet02** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:21 am

oceancolors79 wrote:bumping with my rant.

Any other crazyguy fans here?

Not a real "Fan", but I definitely liked his derby run, and think he's an overlooked horse. Maybe he wants to run this often. If not, then your rant is justified.
If he needs a rescue someday; I'll contribute!

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:48 am

Toccet, possibly he wants to run this often and if he did I suppose I wouldn't have a problem. But the plan seems so haphazard. This is a horse that came fourth in the Kentucky Derby in what turned out to be a very good field, given subsequent performances by many of the runners that day.

So why didn't they analyse what it was about that situation that caused him to run so well that day, and try to maximize his potential that way?

All these tracks with the attendant shipping, mini-stakes, distances, constant run-backs foster the perception at least, that the owners/trainer don't care - any old race will do.

In Britain the flat season has a complete break, and even for a horse that thrives on running, I do not think that does any harm, and I think that for the bulk of horses it's a good thing.