Lit de Justice

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Lit de Justice

Postby Gerry » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:09 pm

Can I get some thoughts about Lit de Justice? as a sire of sires? of broodies?

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Postby Diane » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:49 pm

I saw a filly of his win her race last week on tvg. If I can think of her name I'll post it but she was built like a mack truck. I've seen him in person and he didn't strike me as being built like an irish field hunter but this filly of his was. If I remember correctly he was a closer and that's what this filly did, came on slow and steady like she wasn't gonna get there but she did. Drive you crazy kinda horse.

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Postby cindylou » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:30 am

I am fairly sure the filly ran at Hollywood park? 6/29/08 Her name is Justice is brief. She is a big one. I follow several of his runners. As I was a fan of Lit. They tend to run off the pace. He has several runners here in Calif.

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Postby Diane » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:54 am

HI CL,
Yes that would be her. Man she looked like she came on in slow motion, her stride must be tremendous.

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Postby springboro » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:01 am

I have a Lit de Justice daughter who is a blocky sprinter type. Her 2008 filly by Andromeda's Hero is correct and going to be big too.

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Postby docjocoy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:14 am

I'm going to give you a bunch of stats, hope it helps:
His starters average 21 starts, 74% starters from foals, 77% winners from starters, his durability # is 75.6%.
His aei is 1.39, ci 1.23, median earnings $24,040, ave. per start $2,969, and average per starter $63,245. He has 4% SW.
His APEX # (from the TDN) for 2007 was 1.57, his ABC percentage for 2007 was 13%, 2006 13%, and 2005 13%. (Not sure if you are familiar with the APEX ratings, I find them useful as another stat, but to compare Lit de Justice to, say Catienus, who you are probably more familiar with, Catienus had an APEX rating for 2007 of 1.40, 11% ABC, and a horse like Giant's Causeway had an APEX of 1.91, 15% ABC. )
His foal crops have averaged about 39, although last year he was reported at 17.
The average winning distance for his runners has been 6.5 f.
He stands at Magali Farms for $5000, the stud fee being reduced each of the last 2 years.
He is a beautiful very light gray, has a great presence about him, seems smaller than he actually is.
For what it's worth, my trainer says his offspring can be hard to handle. For a proven stallion, his stats rank him quite high in CA, and I for one think he has a lot to offer.

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lit de justice

Postby cindylou » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:29 am

Excellent and informatve post.
Not surprised his progeny is considered hard to handle. Lit was hard to handle. Corey Naketani stated in an interview that Lit was the most difficult horse he ever rode. Yet, he may have mellowed some with age. An orgaization that raises money for race horse retirement here in Calif. sells Moneighs as a fund raiser. They told me that Lit has been quite cooperative when asked to do a little painting.

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Postby springboro » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:19 am

His daughter, Freedom Come, is the dam of Prince of Wales winner Harlem Rocker.

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/46132.htm

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Postby Gerry » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:24 am

docjocoy thanks for all the stats....and thank you to everyone for your bits of information.
I just brought home a son of his as a stallion prospect, who is a minor stakes winner and had a nice race record with 27 starts, 10 -7-2 for $190K. He hasnt been hard to handle but he did test breed this year so maybe that farm mellowed him out alittle. His name is Cumby Texas
http://www.pedigreequery.com/cumby+texas stands about 16h and has the look of a sprinter.