If I choose a sire that has an AWD of 6.5f and the mare's AWD is 8f what AWD can I expect for the foal. Do I take an avg of the 2 or is it anywhere from 6.5 to 8?
The DP of the proposed foal is 5-5-10-0-0 and the conduit mare profile is 8-5-1-5-7
Thank you for everyone help, I am a first time breeder and still trying to learn the basics.
Breeding and AWD
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It's going to depend on a lot of factors. It isn't cut and dried. A horse can be bred from 2 6.5's and wind up with more of a distance conformation due to a grand sire or grand dam being more of a distance type. It could take more after the distance type due to recessive influences, or dominant influences matching up with other dominant influences.
That's the science combining with the art of breeding. You have to study what is being produced by the close relatives of individuals you have. That's the key to it. It isn't just so and so's sire doesn't have this stallion or does have that stallion in it's pedigree. You have to understand the conformation and temperament influences you're working with. Just saying he has too much of this or that g-g-g-g-g-sire is over-simplifying everything. The mare does more than supply milk.
Think of it like making a stew. It's more than chopping up a few pieces of meat, adding a couple of potatoes, a couple of carrots and an onion, then just dumping it in some water and boiling it. The little things like salt and pepper and garlic, some celery, a couple bay leaves and some rosemary, all influence what you come out with at the end of the day.
You could wind up with something that can run 12 furlongs if you play your cards right, or that can't go farther than 5.
That's the science combining with the art of breeding. You have to study what is being produced by the close relatives of individuals you have. That's the key to it. It isn't just so and so's sire doesn't have this stallion or does have that stallion in it's pedigree. You have to understand the conformation and temperament influences you're working with. Just saying he has too much of this or that g-g-g-g-g-sire is over-simplifying everything. The mare does more than supply milk.
Think of it like making a stew. It's more than chopping up a few pieces of meat, adding a couple of potatoes, a couple of carrots and an onion, then just dumping it in some water and boiling it. The little things like salt and pepper and garlic, some celery, a couple bay leaves and some rosemary, all influence what you come out with at the end of the day.
You could wind up with something that can run 12 furlongs if you play your cards right, or that can't go farther than 5.
One more factor you have to consider, a stallion's early results will be skewed toward sprinters because the runner has to build distance up through training and aging. An early colt needs experience and gradual stamina building. It can't jump out and run a mile or more under race conditions in May. There's a reason some tracks hold 4 1/2 furlong races. It's to build condition for sprinters so that they can run longer races in June or July.
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thread deserves more response! good Q! though, have zero idea what AWD is, nor have any care whatsoever. for first time novice breeder, anybody differ(?) some (more) important things to consider, in order of priority:
1. the biggest most overwhelming factor in a successful breeding is yourself promptly getting the foal into best training available, and straight to the race track, asap.
2. Since the mare is a given, in matching stallions breathing ability is #1. Best thus a good race record that insures that. If sire is unraced, insist he gallops for you in a paddock to insure clean breathing. Breathing in your foal is everything.
3. Secondly, I look for speed.
4. D.W. Lukas--Lukas section in Ross Staaden's book--how did Lukas in the 80s find stallions for his mares. #1 match the conformation of the stallion to conformation of the mare.
5. The more athleticism the stallion shows, regardless of race record, the better.
6. and, needless to say, clean conformation. questionable traits, habits, etc. definitely inheritable.
6. Cheap stallions these days have the exact same genetics by and large as expensive ones.
7. Nevertheless, if you study it and get a feel for it, matching genetics is good.
In my experience very few owners have the knowledge to deal with many of these as they lack any background in either athletics or racing by which to judge. For those, I'd pick a stallion, and take a photo of the stallion to a successful trainer for an opinion. Of course, it's necessary to be able to identify one of those also. rare birds.
1. the biggest most overwhelming factor in a successful breeding is yourself promptly getting the foal into best training available, and straight to the race track, asap.
2. Since the mare is a given, in matching stallions breathing ability is #1. Best thus a good race record that insures that. If sire is unraced, insist he gallops for you in a paddock to insure clean breathing. Breathing in your foal is everything.
3. Secondly, I look for speed.
4. D.W. Lukas--Lukas section in Ross Staaden's book--how did Lukas in the 80s find stallions for his mares. #1 match the conformation of the stallion to conformation of the mare.
5. The more athleticism the stallion shows, regardless of race record, the better.
6. and, needless to say, clean conformation. questionable traits, habits, etc. definitely inheritable.
6. Cheap stallions these days have the exact same genetics by and large as expensive ones.
7. Nevertheless, if you study it and get a feel for it, matching genetics is good.
In my experience very few owners have the knowledge to deal with many of these as they lack any background in either athletics or racing by which to judge. For those, I'd pick a stallion, and take a photo of the stallion to a successful trainer for an opinion. Of course, it's necessary to be able to identify one of those also. rare birds.