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Missing/Incomplete Pedigrees

Postby Miesque1973 » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:13 pm

I've pretty much hit a wall with all the horses below. Of course, if anyone finds their pedigrees (particularly their tail-male lineage) I'll have to get back to work on my sirelines project. Which I haven't worked on in several months.


HOBART CUP (Australia):
1888 Ballarat, 187? -> Young Melbourne, 18??

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CLASICO MINISTERIO DE AGRICULTURA Y CRIA (Venezuela):
1940 Alajuela, 193?->??

CLASICO INTERNACIONAL FUERZA ARMADA (Venezuela)
1933 Anauco, 192? -> (Big Baby x Mascarette)

CLASICO DE LOS SPRINTERS (Venezuela)
1932 & 1934 Picaresco, 192? -> Chile II, 1919 -> (Chile II x Picaresca, possibly sired by Pirapo, 1903 x Rib Rat, 1908)

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GAZI KOSUSU (TURKISH DERBY) (Turkey):
1927 Neriman, 1924->Vexillum, ~1914 -> ?? (Vexillum-Quarrel)
1938 Romance, 1935->Alinari, ~1925->?? (Alinari-Hercegno)

PRESIDENCY CUP (Turkey)
1940-1942 Romance, 193?-> Alinari, ~1925 -> (Alinari-Hercegno)

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GRAN PREMIO SAN SEBASTIAN (Spain):
1917 Saca Chispas, ~1912->??
1928 & 1924 Whirligig, 192?->??

PREMIO MILLAMEJOR-SPANISH ST. LEGER (Spain)
1926 La Magdalena, 1923 -> Billycock, 1912 -> ??

PREMIO CIMERA-SPANISH TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS (Spain)
1921 Saint Bai, 1918 -> Saint Pé, 1908 -> ??
1925 La Doriguilla, 1922 -> Billycock, 1912 -> ??
1926 Dame de Pique, 1923 -> Robinét, 19?? -> ??

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WINNIPEG FUTURITY (Canada)
1935 McLeod Breeze, 1933 -> ??

JOCKEY CLUB CUP STAKES (Canada)
1916 Fair Mac, 191? -> ??

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HUNGARIAN OAKS (Hungary)
1855 Parva, 1852 -> Tourist, 18?? -> ?? (Tourist x Martingale, by The Saddler)
1965 Gymnasztyorka, 1962 -> ??
1967 Bali, 1964 -> ??

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PRIZ REIKI WOLGI (Russia):
1874 Kozyrnaja Dwojka, 1871->Zurnal, 186?->?? (Zurnal x Pikowaja Dama, by Vicomte)

GOSUDARYN IMPERATRICY (Russia):
1876 Larisa, 1873->Lazy Fellow, 186?->?? (Lazy Fellow x Redeza, by Rifleman)

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AUSTRALIAN CUP (Australia)
1868 Shenandoah, 1861 -> High Sheriff, 1849
1872 Saladin, 1865 -> Pegasus Arab, 18?? (Arabian)

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MEHL-MUHLENS-RENNEN (Germany):
1845 Die Jugend, 1842-> Amnesbury, 18??-> ?? (Amnesbury x Gulistan, by Whalebone)

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DERBY BELGE (Belgium):
1943 Cent Trieze, 1940->??

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EASTER HANDICAP (New Zealand)
1879-1880 Yatapa, 187? -> ??

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IRISH GRAND NATIONAL (Ireland)
1924 Kilbarry, 1915->Belvoir, 190?->??
1927 Jerpoint, 1920->Rot's Pride, 190?->??
1933 Red Park, 1926->Redmond, 191?->??
1939 Shaun Peel, 1932->Ambrose, 192?->??

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SWEDISH DERBY (Sweden):
1930 C.L.O.C., 1927->??

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JAMAICAN DERBY (Jamaica) (history incomplete)
1964 Duesbury, 1961 -> ??

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TRIAL STAKES (Austria):
1868 Swift, 1865->Arsenal, 18??->?? (Arsenal x Sylph, by Touchstone)
1903 Jenkins, 1900->Coureur, 18??->?? (Coureur x Addy, by Rosicrucian)

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PERAK DERBY (Malaysia?):
1952 One Three One, 194?->??
1969 Joint Command, 196?->??

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SINGAPORE DERBY (Singapore) (I'm assuming these horses ran in Singapore with different names; also assuming many were Australian or New Zealand-breds):
1971 Forest Jim, 196?->??

SINGAPORE ST. LEGER (Singapore)
1956 Little Papa
1957 Straits Code
1962 Repulse Bay
1963 Ajnos

E.W. BARKER TROPHY (Singapore)
1994 Paititi Gold II

PATRON'S BOWL (Singapore)
1997 Casion Raider

LION CITY CUP (Singapore)
1974 General Trong III
1975 Golden Way
1976 & 1977 Blue Star
1979 Butterfly Boy
1980 Sovereign Escort II
1982 & 1983 Added Advantage II
1984 & 1985 Jingle Bell II
1986 Baliik Palau II
1989 Entertainment XI
1991 Olympic Boy
1995 Imperial Lord III

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ROYAL OAK DERBY (Trinidad) (history incomplete)
1902 Fox, 1899 ->??
1916 Take a Light, 1913 -> Quickmatch, 19?? ->
1917 Redrine, 1914 -> ??
1950 Footmark, 1947 -> ??
1966 Pegasus Plus, 1963 -> ??
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VELKA PARDUBICKA STEEPLECHASE (Czechoslovakia):
1879 Rudi, 1874->Stanley, 186? -> ?? (Stanley-Canace)
1901 Chorazy, 1895->Bellwether, 188? -> ?? (Bellwether-Hoffentlich)
1904 Dennis, 1898->Harristown, 188? -? ?? (Harristown-Mayoby)
1931 Pohanka, 1926->Nedbal, 19?? -> ?? (Nedbal-Piascenza)
1934 Wahne, 19??->Lot, 19?? -> ?? (Lot-Katharina)
1964 Priboj, 1957->Bez, 19?? -> ?? (Bez-Parandza)
1970 Vezna II, 1964->Varnencik, 19?? -> ??
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Postby saintlyCZ » Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:03 pm

Miesque: you can directly scratch the Velka Pardubicka winners from that list - there's no way how to find them... :( I have all possible materials about that race, but there's nothing like their pedigree... I don't believe there's any way how to find them :(
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