Help with picking mare lines for 2 stallions

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Help with picking mare lines for 2 stallions

Postby KBEquine » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:30 pm

I'd love opinions on what I would look for in broodmares for 2 very different stallions. I might have free breedings to 2 stallions --

Horse A is NOT blacktype; he ran short & on the dirt, raced until he was 10, came off the track sound, sane & willing to be a riding horse [after earning more than $100k]. He is extremely well-balanced as a riding horse. His bloodlines are through a FL stud -- Rocamadour [IRE] through Grey Sovereign to Nasrullah; his dam is a Native Dancer line mare. [I'm thinking riding horse, but not ruling out sending a baby to the track.]

Horse B is blacktype. He ran long [really long] & favored the turf, although he also ran on the dirt. He is by Kris S.

I have lots to learn. But to start, I have a few specific questions:

1. Let's say I have mares. Conformation aside, what would I look at on each to differentiate which to breed to each horse? [Let me know if you're thinking race horse or sport horse] If it helps, I've got 3 mares in mind -- one is by a Seattle Slew son, out of a Mt. Livermore mare; the 2nd is by a Northern Dancer grandson [not an especially well-known one], out of a Raise a Native mare. The 3rd is by a Conquistador Cielo son, out of the 2nd mare.

2. Let's say I am buying the mares. Any suggestions for what I should look for, to match with each stallion? [Again, are you thinking race or sport horse?]

3. Most important of all -- what questions SHOULD I have asked, that I didn't? [Probably the REAL learning part of this exercise!]

Thanks, all, for sharing your knowledge.

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Postby louis finochio » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:53 pm

It would be best to breed those mares to proven stallions, as those free stallions might turn out to be also rans.

The blood lines of those 2 mares are a big positive, so you want to breed them to stallions that have a bloodline affinity for their male and female bloodlines or families.
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If not the hypothetical "free" stallions, any sugg

Postby KBEquine » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:23 pm

Actually, you're right on the stallions --

One is more of a sporthorse stallion -- he ran a long time, but never in top company. [He's the horse who really is "free" in the sense I already own him & know the risk is it's more likely than not that I'll get a sporthorse rather than a racehorse].

The other is black-type, but he's the more "hypothetical" of the two.

I should have asked the obvious next question --

If not the 2 stallions I described, does any spring to mind? None is blacktype; the 1st mare earned money but had no wins; the 2nd mare has a couple wins & a blacktype full sister & half-brother. The 3rd mare's just now in training to race.

Here is the 1st mare [not the strongest was to get to Seattle Slew, but still there]:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/compelling+song

The second mare:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/saratoga+sass

And the third mare:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/saratoga+clash

We've always bred more for show than anything else, so I'm reading books & internet sites & talking to people & generally asking for help & opinions & breeding philosophies.

Thanks -- in advance for helping further my education!

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Location

Postby KBEquine » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:25 pm

Oh. You'd think I'd have remembered to mention this --

We're in the Mid-Atlantic region & would most likely breed to a stallion located somewhere between VA & NY.

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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:19 am

I'd look for a Kris S son

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Kris S son

Postby KBEquine » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:23 am

Thanks, Ragsdaj . . . Perhaps I will!