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Postby ZiaLand » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:06 am

The good news is that our Slewvescent mare (Netta Gayle Bell) presented me with a very nice birthday present. She foaled a nice bay colt by Devon Lane (Storm Cat) late Thursday evening. So far, mom and baby are doing well. After last year, I've learned to hold my breath the first week.

The bad news is that we had a tragedy earlier that day. That morning our Hawkster mare lost her colt by Bestbandintheland (a full brother to Chimes Band). It's baffling because she was 30 days away from her foaling date and there were no apparent problems with the foal, in fact he looked like a healthy, full term baby. It seems the foal ripped the placenta. The foal had his head turned and legs back, so it was a very long and difficult delivery with a lot of assistance from the vet with two of us helping. The umbilical was also broken at some point, but it's unknown if the colt did it before he was aborted or if it happened during the struggle. We'll have a necropsy done to see if there are any indications what went wrong. Has anyone ever heard of a situation like this?

Fortunately, the mare seems to be doing all right, other than depression and exhaustion. We're keeping our fingers crossed for her, too.
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Postby henthorn » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:42 am

Spanish Guitar's Arch filly aborted at about a month early last year. The vet said the placenta lost circulation inside the dam, and the baby died inside the uterus. Then the mother just expelled the dead fetus. No obvious causes. In our minds, we think it may have been related to the stress of too much travel for late in pregnancy, as she went first from OK to KY for a few days rest, then from KY to NY to an unfamiliar farm.

This year she's foaling at her place of origin in NY, then will travel to KY for breeding when she and the foal are stable, and stay there for several months.
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Postby ZiaLand » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:05 am

Thanks for your reply, Henthorn.

Just out of curiousity, how late in the pregnancy did you transport the mare? The terrible winter here forced us into this position with two (now one) of our mares.

Another we'll have to move another one after she foals.

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Postby Mood Swings » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:43 am

ZiaLand - I am happy for your live foal, congratulations! So sorry to hear about your Hawkster mare and her foal :( Best wishes for her speedy recovery.
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Postby ZiaLand » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:26 pm

Thanks Mood Swings. This was our first hands-on experience with a foaling tragedy so it was emotionally draining.

The farm reports that the Devon Lane/Netta Gayle Bell colt is doing well. Very correct and good size for a first foal. He appears to be dark bay with some white. I hope to have pics in a couple days.

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Postby clh » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:35 am

Laurie: Congrats on the foal (we'll need pics) :D

I am so sorry about the loss of the other foal. Sounds like a redbag (placentitis, whatever the term of the day is) - these are so hard to know and diagnose - we've had several over the years and it is heartbraking when you don't know what caused it! Hope mom is doing okay! It just plain sucks!

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Postby mikec » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:55 am

Zialand.
Congrats on new baby !
On the other hand I can't even begin to imagine how you must be feeling. Hang in there !
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Postby Happy » Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:02 am

I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your foal, but glad the other foal is doing well. It's tough when you want to be happy and yet you feel sad at the same time. When you can, would love to see pictures! :) :(

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Postby Savana Star Dubois » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:10 am

I can only speak for myself but my pain lessen with each new foal..luckily you have other foals this year..I only had that one mare...enjoy the babies

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Postby mlwinter » Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:05 pm

Congrats on your new bundle and sorry about the loss of your other. Hope mom recovers.

I bought three mares in foal last year from Fasig Tipton. These were my first broodmare purchases. One mare aborted 7 days after we brought her home. No signs what so ever. Appears to have been EHV, even though she was reported to have been vaccinated. She was about thirty days from foaling. The second mare delivered early, but the foal wasn't strong enough to make it. The mare tried to kill him every chance she got, like she knew something was wrong with him. She bit me really bad trying to get to him. The poor little guy lived about 28 hours. Longest 28 hours of my life...And finally my third purchase, a stakes placed daughter of Key to the Mint foaled a gorgeous Trust N Luck Filly.

Thank goodness for Small Miracles.

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Postby Prairie » Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:25 pm

I'm so sorry about the loss of your colt. Hope mom is doing well.

Congratulations on your boy!

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Postby madelyn » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:45 am

mlwinter wrote:I bought three mares in foal last year from Fasig Tipton. These were my first broodmare purchases. One mare aborted 7 days after we brought her home. No signs what so ever. Appears to have been EHV, even though she was reported to have been vaccinated. She was about thirty days from foaling. The second mare delivered early, but the foal wasn't strong enough to make it. The mare tried to kill him every chance she got, like she knew something was wrong with him. She bit me really bad trying to get to him. The poor little guy lived about 28 hours. Longest 28 hours of my life...And finally my third purchase, a stakes placed daughter of Key to the Mint foaled a gorgeous Trust N Luck Filly.

Thank goodness for Small Miracles.


And what a GREAT argument in favor of pro-foal insurance.

Zialand, sorry to hear about your loss.. we had that baffling one on New Year's Eve, Belle Masque.. foal looked perfectly healthy, placenta, etc, all fine. No explanation whatsoever. About 7 weeks early. Sometimes mares get kicked or the cord just twists up too tight. I wish I could interview the mare to find out what she thought happened. Good luck with the Devon Lane!
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Postby mlwinter » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:05 am

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And what a GREAT argument in favor of pro-foal insurance.

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What is pro-foal insurance? Is that insurance while in utero?

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Postby henthorn » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:41 am

Yes, mlwinter. Prospective foal insurance takes over when the change of ownership occurs from the sales venue. Most live foal guarantee contracts are voided when the mare enters a sale.

The price is variable, depending on the health history of the mare in question. You should always consider whether it's a good value for you when buying in-foal mares. Discuss it in advance with your equine insurance professional, and it will begin coverage at the fall-of-the-hammer.
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Postby LSB » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:36 am

According to the broker I use, prospective foal insurance can only be purchased if the mare is still quite far from foaling (either 60 or 90 days, I think) so it doesn't sound as though miwinter's first two mares could have gotten coverage. The premium is 14%.