Let's suppose that you have a horse that figures to be a late developer. Looking into a crystal ball, you see that the horse will be Horse of the Year when it's a five year old. If you could pick ANY trainer to train the horse, who would you choose? Remember - this horse will be a late developer and won't win HOY until it's a 5 year old.
Allen Jerkens gets my vote.
Let's suppose.....pick a trainer
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Let's suppose.....pick a trainer
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Wow--that's a late maturing horse.
Do you really think you can you tell when a young horse has that much potential that can't be reached until he is five---without having something else unusual in that horses life? I would suspect such a horse---one which could win HOY as a five year old------but didn't do much as a young horse----- had some unusual circumstance in his early racing life (like a freak injury or something) which got in the way of that horse getting to the races earlier, say as a late 3 yr old or maybe even as a young 4 year old, but to think you had a horse with that much potential and simply needed more maturity would be truly unusual---IMHO. If there truly are such horses they are going to be real money burners---I wouldn't want to have many of these types in my barn---- Yikes that could get expensive.
If the real objective of your question is which high profile trainer is the most patient----I would have to say on the east coast it could be Mott and on the west coast, probably Mandella----historically, look how few 3 yr olds they have competing in the classics. I don't think either of these guys rush there horses.
I am sure you can find plenty of lower profile trainers who are equally patient but I am not sure they would consistently get high quality horses like the higher profile guys would get. You need really good stock to compete at the highest levels----especially as a young horse.
I personally believe most trainers are made by good horses---not the reverse.
I think a lot of trainers could have trained Secretariat.
Do you really think you can you tell when a young horse has that much potential that can't be reached until he is five---without having something else unusual in that horses life? I would suspect such a horse---one which could win HOY as a five year old------but didn't do much as a young horse----- had some unusual circumstance in his early racing life (like a freak injury or something) which got in the way of that horse getting to the races earlier, say as a late 3 yr old or maybe even as a young 4 year old, but to think you had a horse with that much potential and simply needed more maturity would be truly unusual---IMHO. If there truly are such horses they are going to be real money burners---I wouldn't want to have many of these types in my barn---- Yikes that could get expensive.
If the real objective of your question is which high profile trainer is the most patient----I would have to say on the east coast it could be Mott and on the west coast, probably Mandella----historically, look how few 3 yr olds they have competing in the classics. I don't think either of these guys rush there horses.
I am sure you can find plenty of lower profile trainers who are equally patient but I am not sure they would consistently get high quality horses like the higher profile guys would get. You need really good stock to compete at the highest levels----especially as a young horse.
I personally believe most trainers are made by good horses---not the reverse.
I think a lot of trainers could have trained Secretariat.
best regards Brendan
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It's just a fun hypothetical, Laurierace....but it's amazing how everyone agrees that it's a certain "type" of trainer that will get the job done.
Nobody's mentioned the real household names (Pletcher, Baffert, Lukas, Asmussen...) and it really shows what racing has become - a two tier sport. On one hand, there's a set of owners and trainers that want the most out of their 2 and 3 year olds; On the other hand, there's a set of owners and trainers that are willing to be patient and allow a horse to mature - those trainers also don't win a lot of sprint races.
Nobody's mentioned the real household names (Pletcher, Baffert, Lukas, Asmussen...) and it really shows what racing has become - a two tier sport. On one hand, there's a set of owners and trainers that want the most out of their 2 and 3 year olds; On the other hand, there's a set of owners and trainers that are willing to be patient and allow a horse to mature - those trainers also don't win a lot of sprint races.
