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PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Postby Sunday Rider » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:38 pm

I have a foal that was born on 3/26/2007. She out grew her halter and I just tried to put a new one on her.....she took a back filp on me,I have tried 2 more times and she does the same thing. I can't begin to tell you how awful this is for me, we lost a 3 year old that I raised and still oun and raised his father that I had gelded last year because he did a back flip and broke his neck. I'm so so sick and tore up right now that I'm just pacing in circles please please help

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Postby Mood Swings » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:57 am

My foal did this many times this year. There are many risks as you know to horse and handler. In my foals case he has a lot of attitude and had to endure many hospital visits, poking and prodding etc.

He is now one of the best behaved foals at the farm. All I did was consitently handle him. They need to be worked with extensively if they are ill manered - for their own sake.

Is your foal leery of handling? Friendly? If your foal is friendly then you have a good starting point. Work with your foal in the stall by calmly scratching her withers or any place that she enjoys being touched. Gradually start moving your hands to other areas that she is not happy about (poll), if she gets upset back off to an area she likes. You don't want to make her angry or scare her as both can cause her to rear as an escape mechanism. I would touch and squeeze the foal half to death :D I am fond of squeezing foals :oops: I imagine she is around 300 lbs if she is a TB so even though it may be tempting to wrestle with her she is bigger than you. Besides a calm friendly approach will serve both of you better in the long run. Just be consistent in what you do. Good luck! Hopefully I made some sense :wink:
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Postby LKR » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:33 am

First, get enough help. If it takes you and two more people, so be it. Maneuver mom into a corner and get the filly into it. Try and get someone to get their arms in front of her neck while someone else gets her tail. That might be where you need a 3rd person to help shove her up against a solid wall. Doing this in panels is asking for trouble. We had to do this with a 7 month old who had never been caught before. We finally got her cornered and against the wall. We got a halter on her and then we put a lead rope on her and let her drag that around the stall for a couple of days. She and her mother were both in there so mom would step on it periodically and it taught her not to fight it when she couldn't move. Manpower is the key to handling these big buggers. She also is ready to be tied up. Don't delay on that. It just gets worse if you do. When I change a halter, I put a lead rope on it, and I always try to slip the bigger one over the one that is getting changed, in case they get away.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:39 am

Mood, She is very very sweet we make it a point to touch all out horses every day twice a day and even more with the foals. She will walk on a lead line, the only problem was, like I wrote in the break away halter post was the tieing thing. She has had a halter sence birth, just a stupid mistake by me in putting a break away halter on her. I'm going with TLC and slow baby steps to get back to square 1. Thank you for your help :)

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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:43 am

Katie, we are trying the halter with lead rope approch. hopefully it will work. Thank you for your help. Hopefully, with TLC we will have our sweetie tieing. :)

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Re: PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Postby habitat » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:50 am

Sunday Rider wrote:I have a foal that was born on 3/26/2007. She out grew her halter and I just tried to put a new one on her.....


It reads to me like you put a halter on your foal and have left it on her like a dog collar until you needed to put a larger one on. Is that correct?

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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:00 pm

habit.....sorry you read my post incorrectly I was upset and very very concerned for my foal when I wrote the post and was writing fast to get post out to get helpASAP. All the horses I own have been rescued off the track,the reason this foal is so special is because when we rescued her Mom the Mom had shut down refusing to eat ready to die and had been left in her stall to die at the race track. We stayed up a many a night and days to get her to eat, took her home, kept her for a year and had her bread. She had a beautiful first foal that is the pride of my heart. I would NEVER repeat NEVER mistreat any animal and yes, I have recue dogs I own from the pound. In the furture, I will try and be careful with my post. Up until this post I have only receive positive feedback and really good advice. I had come to enjoy reading a lot of the post in here. I have always sent hope and prayers to others in need.

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Postby madelyn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:42 pm

SR, I think you mean you had her BRED. The other kind comes in white, whole wheat or rye :D . Regarding your filly, you might have done the filly hug (wrap your arms around, and twist up the tail) and have your "assistant" swap out the halter.
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Postby LKR » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:48 pm

Sunday Rider, another thing we do is when we teach to tie, we use a small inner tube secured to a stout post. The inner tube gives when they fight it but they don't break it. We tie the lead rope short to the inner tube, make sure the area around it is fairly soft, and tie them. They will pull back, sit down or throw themselves down sometimes, but other than pulling the lead rope loose if they get into too much of a tussle, we just let them be. It can look pretty frightening, sometimes, but as long as they don't get a leg over the lead rope, they are usually fine. Of course, we let mom stay right there, we use our round pen to do this, and it usually goes quite well. As I said before, keep us posted.
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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:50 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Nope,I mean she had a nice loaf of wheat bread foal:lol: :lol: Must be the diet :lol: Thanks for breaking the tension :lol: I needed that. My nerves are really raw right now. Starting to cool off :) Thank you :)

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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:57 pm

Katie, That sounds like a super idea :shock: We have the round pen we can do this in.....not to sound too dumb......should inter tube be inflated? I'm thinking not or at the most just a little bit inflated???

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Postby Sunday Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:00 pm

yep, another spelling boo boo :lol: inner tube

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Postby LKR » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:04 pm

Do NOT inflate.
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Postby Toccet02 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:05 pm

Don't get too paranoid about it.
Posts are full of typos and grammatical errors from just about everybody except Madelyn, whose first language is NOT English! :lol: I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Postby habitat » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:13 pm

I really like the tie ring Clinton Anderson sells for 20 bucks for tie training.

(glad the halter isnt a permanent fixture)

the last foal I had didnt much care for a halter. So at feeding times she had to get the halter put on before she could eat her grain. She had to stick her nose through the halter to get to the grain. I hooked the strap around her neck once she started eating.