The ITOBA Yearlings and Horses of All Ages Sale is this Saturday, August 25th at Hoosier Park racetrack. The sale begins at 1:00, but horses will be available for inspection beginning at 8:00 AM.
There are 87 catalogued entries, 19 supplemental entries, 5 OUTs, and several catalog corrections and updates, all of which are posted on the ITOBA web site: www.itoba.com
We have one in the sale this year. It's our first time to do this; we FAR prefer to sell privately but we're testing the waters. We've been too busy to do much sale prepping and I don't agree with the general process of sale prepping anyway (can't justify keeping a young horse in a stall,) so hopefully people can look past the lack of fluff and see the actual horse. We shall see. I guess if they can't, we'll bring him back home.
Anyway, it should be a good sale this year. Is anyone planning on being there?
Indiana Sale THIS SATURDAY
Moderators: Roguelet, WaveMaster, madelyn
Indiana Sale THIS SATURDAY
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Roguelet,
This heat sure hasn't been easy on the mares with babies either. Keep them in or turn them out?
And those little rascals just suck suck suck away on mama. Course they are only two months old.
Better get my butt moving, got bunches to do before tomorrow and lots to move before Saturday. There is sure a lot to do. This is reminding me of my horse showing days. Bath, clip, pull, band, paint....geewhiz.....
Do you by chance know how the stalls are assigned? Also I emailed ITOBA a correction to Hip # 19.
See ya there!!!
This heat sure hasn't been easy on the mares with babies either. Keep them in or turn them out?
And those little rascals just suck suck suck away on mama. Course they are only two months old.
Better get my butt moving, got bunches to do before tomorrow and lots to move before Saturday. There is sure a lot to do. This is reminding me of my horse showing days. Bath, clip, pull, band, paint....geewhiz.....
Do you by chance know how the stalls are assigned? Also I emailed ITOBA a correction to Hip # 19.
See ya there!!!
Yeah, now see I haven't had time for any of that. I've had a big, huge, major, stinking emergency that has taken literally every second of my past week 
Not to mention all the work it takes to put ON the sale... I don't have any time left to deal with my own consignment! But it's a little late to figure that out now, I suppose. 
There are not enough hours in the day.
As for stall assignments, Gayle does all of that. I don't know who is where, but he'll have it posted on the backside.
Not to mention all the work it takes to put ON the sale... I don't have any time left to deal with my own consignment! But it's a little late to figure that out now, I suppose. There are not enough hours in the day.
As for stall assignments, Gayle does all of that. I don't know who is where, but he'll have it posted on the backside.
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Let me encourage everyone who plans to attend this sale to take one last look at our supplemental entries, catalog updates, outs, etc; all listed at www.itoba.com Updates have been made as recently as this morning.
Also, as a bonus, any broodmare or broodmare prospect sold through this auction is entitled to a FREE 2008 breeding to the buyer's choice of either:
Indy Mood http://www.ambrex.org/stallionroster/StallionDetail.asp?HID=3
or
Sold to Wallstreet http://www.pedigreequery.com/sold+to+wallstreet
Also, as a bonus, any broodmare or broodmare prospect sold through this auction is entitled to a FREE 2008 breeding to the buyer's choice of either:
Indy Mood http://www.ambrex.org/stallionroster/StallionDetail.asp?HID=3
or
Sold to Wallstreet http://www.pedigreequery.com/sold+to+wallstreet
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I am working on a chart of results today and will post when I get it done (yesterday was all about settling accounts, balancing money, preparing deposits, etc.)
I also have ALL SORTS of comments about the sale, but if I start now I won't get the results chart done, and I need to go get horses fed before I start that, so I'd better not get into it just yet. However, I know a few other forum members were there and I'd be interested to hear their thoughts as well.
I also have ALL SORTS of comments about the sale, but if I start now I won't get the results chart done, and I need to go get horses fed before I start that, so I'd better not get into it just yet. However, I know a few other forum members were there and I'd be interested to hear their thoughts as well.
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OK; here are some quick thoughts about this sale. First of all, I'd been hearing a lot of people say that next year will really be the first "good" sale because slots will be HERE then, everything should be in place, etc. However, I really thought, based on the huge increase in consigned horses and buyer interest, that this year's sale would be a big success. While it was better than anything we've seen for a while, it wasn't quite as good as I expected. There were several decent bids, but there were a lot more No Sales than I expected to see.
I wanted to put a horse in the sale this year, just to test the waters. I have horses of all ages and descriptions for sale, but I chose to put in a yearling because I thought they would sell well this year. My thinking was that the yearlings are the ones who will be racing when those slot-fed purse increases are actually here. I figured that there would be plenty of people who wanted to have young Indiana bred and sired horses ready to run when that time was here, and I also thought that we would likely see some pinhookers who would be scooping up yearlings to sell as 2 year olds in training at NEXT year's sale, with the intent to make a bundle of cash.
Shows how much I know. The horses of racing age were the sellers this year; nobody wanted yearlings. There were a lot of trainers there to fill their barns and people who wanted horses that are ready to race now. Buyers apparently wanted horses who would be running at Indiana Downs in the Spring and even at the upcoming Hoosier Park Fall meet.
The Quarter Horses sold pretty well, which I was happy to see. There weren't many there, but there seemed to be a definite market for those who were. Hopefully that will grow in the future.
As much as I like having the sale at Hoosier Park, and as convenient as it is for the trainers and the owners who have horses already stabled there, it is going to be my recommendation that, if we are going to continue to have this number of horses consigned to the sale, we look at holding the sale at the Fair Grounds instead. Now, I'm one of 20 on the Board, so just because I recommend it doesn't mean that it will ever happen, but my job was repeatedly made nearly impossible by situations surrounding the track set-up, etc. throughout the day, and for those reasons the sale was, in my opinion, not nearly as smooth as it could have been.
So, at the end of the day, I wasn't very happy with the administrative issues that I had to deal with and there are several things that will need to be fixed, one way or another, before we do this again. I was completely unable to do anything for the yearling that I had in the sale; I paid a groom to clean him up and see to him during the day, but I was unable to take him out to show people or "talk him up;" but honestly I don't think it mattered much since yearlings just didn't get much interest in general. I didn't see him go through the ring (honestly, I never even saw the ring at all) and didn't get to look at any of the other horses. It was just mind-boggling chaos; so much to do.
On the plus side, there were some nice final bids, and we had a sale topper who brought $30,000 (which is big for our sale... I realize that's a starting bid at some sales, but good for Indiana.) There were a LOT of people there, which definitely shows a renewed interest in Indiana racing. Apparently a lot of these people were just checking things out and they will hopefully be ready to open their wallets by next year. At least it's encouraging to see that the interest is there. Although I was experiencing some administrative nightmares, I've had several comments that the sale seemed to go well, so apparently they were not easily noticeable to the public, which is always a good thing; for the most part people who I dealt with were pleasant and seemed to have a decent time.
So, there were definitely some good aspects and some bad aspects, but overall I think this year's sale was generally successful. We learned a lot from this sale and we'll be able to use what we learned to improve on future sales.
I would really be interested to hear some other opinions...
I wanted to put a horse in the sale this year, just to test the waters. I have horses of all ages and descriptions for sale, but I chose to put in a yearling because I thought they would sell well this year. My thinking was that the yearlings are the ones who will be racing when those slot-fed purse increases are actually here. I figured that there would be plenty of people who wanted to have young Indiana bred and sired horses ready to run when that time was here, and I also thought that we would likely see some pinhookers who would be scooping up yearlings to sell as 2 year olds in training at NEXT year's sale, with the intent to make a bundle of cash.
Shows how much I know. The horses of racing age were the sellers this year; nobody wanted yearlings. There were a lot of trainers there to fill their barns and people who wanted horses that are ready to race now. Buyers apparently wanted horses who would be running at Indiana Downs in the Spring and even at the upcoming Hoosier Park Fall meet.
The Quarter Horses sold pretty well, which I was happy to see. There weren't many there, but there seemed to be a definite market for those who were. Hopefully that will grow in the future.
As much as I like having the sale at Hoosier Park, and as convenient as it is for the trainers and the owners who have horses already stabled there, it is going to be my recommendation that, if we are going to continue to have this number of horses consigned to the sale, we look at holding the sale at the Fair Grounds instead. Now, I'm one of 20 on the Board, so just because I recommend it doesn't mean that it will ever happen, but my job was repeatedly made nearly impossible by situations surrounding the track set-up, etc. throughout the day, and for those reasons the sale was, in my opinion, not nearly as smooth as it could have been.
So, at the end of the day, I wasn't very happy with the administrative issues that I had to deal with and there are several things that will need to be fixed, one way or another, before we do this again. I was completely unable to do anything for the yearling that I had in the sale; I paid a groom to clean him up and see to him during the day, but I was unable to take him out to show people or "talk him up;" but honestly I don't think it mattered much since yearlings just didn't get much interest in general. I didn't see him go through the ring (honestly, I never even saw the ring at all) and didn't get to look at any of the other horses. It was just mind-boggling chaos; so much to do.
On the plus side, there were some nice final bids, and we had a sale topper who brought $30,000 (which is big for our sale... I realize that's a starting bid at some sales, but good for Indiana.) There were a LOT of people there, which definitely shows a renewed interest in Indiana racing. Apparently a lot of these people were just checking things out and they will hopefully be ready to open their wallets by next year. At least it's encouraging to see that the interest is there. Although I was experiencing some administrative nightmares, I've had several comments that the sale seemed to go well, so apparently they were not easily noticeable to the public, which is always a good thing; for the most part people who I dealt with were pleasant and seemed to have a decent time.
So, there were definitely some good aspects and some bad aspects, but overall I think this year's sale was generally successful. We learned a lot from this sale and we'll be able to use what we learned to improve on future sales.
I would really be interested to hear some other opinions...
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Ill-bred wrote:Hi Roguelet-
Just wanted to let you know that the equineline report for your sale topper (Evenly) says she sold for $3,000!
$30,000 is correct, right?
That would be a REALLY pathetic sale topper! Yes, $30,000 is the correct number.
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Ill-bred: Can you link me to that report? I can't seem to find it. I don't see us on the Blood-Horse site yet, but this was on the TB Times web site; they got it right...
Stephen Got Even filly tops Indiana sale
Evenly, a two-year-old Stephen Got Even filly, sold for $30,000 to top the Indiana Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association’s horses of all ages sale at Hoosier Park on August 25.
Ronald S. Burch and Neal Allread bought the Indiana-bred filly, who was bred and consigned by Elliott Farms.
The ITOBA reported 37 horses sold from 91 offered for total sales of $83,600. Average price was $2,259. The buy-back rate was 59.3%. The sale also included eight Quarter Horses, which were not included in these results.
The sale-topping filly was out of the unraced 11-year-old Dehere mare Lady Samira. A half sister to the stakes placed winner Judge’s Appeal, Evenly was listed as reserve not attained on final bid of $22,000 at the 2007 Ocala Breeders’ Sales Co.’s March sale of selected two-year-olds in training.
Stephen Got Even filly tops Indiana sale
Evenly, a two-year-old Stephen Got Even filly, sold for $30,000 to top the Indiana Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association’s horses of all ages sale at Hoosier Park on August 25.
Ronald S. Burch and Neal Allread bought the Indiana-bred filly, who was bred and consigned by Elliott Farms.
The ITOBA reported 37 horses sold from 91 offered for total sales of $83,600. Average price was $2,259. The buy-back rate was 59.3%. The sale also included eight Quarter Horses, which were not included in these results.
The sale-topping filly was out of the unraced 11-year-old Dehere mare Lady Samira. A half sister to the stakes placed winner Judge’s Appeal, Evenly was listed as reserve not attained on final bid of $22,000 at the 2007 Ocala Breeders’ Sales Co.’s March sale of selected two-year-olds in training.
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This race record report for Evenly contains the incorrect auction info. It's probably wrong on all their reports. Not sure who reports this info to the Jockey Club... (?)
http://www.equineline.com/eqlreports/T9 ... N=45593739
http://www.equineline.com/eqlreports/T9 ... N=45593739
Thank you, I've notified them so hopefully they will get that fixed. They've cut our sale average in half on that report, too... and it's not great to start with, so we sure don't need it reported even lower! 
Thanks a bunch!
Thanks a bunch!
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