RIP Maria's Mon

[Kelly Kip]

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=40794

[Maven]

Wow, I hadn't heard this and usually news like this travels around quickly at the sale. He was a very good stallion. Big loss for Pin Oak.

[Rokeby Forever]

Poor Maven....less Lady Be Good blood to go around next year.

[TBLADY]

so sad...way too soon.

[Maven]

Poor Maven....less Lady Be Good blood to go around next year.

Ain't that the truth. You know, this is one where I told myself I would breed to him in the next few years but always kept pushing it off, because I wanted to ride his "good crops" into the sales ring. Typical.

[FOS]

hi guys

When Maria's Mon was retired to Pin Oak (to first stand for an advertised stud fee of $7,500, if I recall correctly), he was all but scoffed and/or snickered at (as a stallion prospect) by some. Arguably, the fact that he was sired by Wavering Monarch had a cooling (if not chilling) affect (if you will) on many commercial breeders; many that might have otherwise bred to/supported the multiple G1-winning 2-year-old champion, if he had been by a sire with more commercial appeal/pizazz connected to him.

Funny thing is...that as much as being sired by Wavering Monarch likely had a cooling/chilling affect of sorts (at least to some degree) on him early-on (at stud), I wouldn't be surprised if some (if not many) breeders today didn't even know who Maria's Mon was by (with certainty, and without multiple guesses and/or choices).

Regardless...what a VERY nice horse; deserving of respect for what he accomplished both as a racehorse, and as a racehorse sire.

Respectfully

[hpkingjr]

Sad to see him go but it should not have come as a complete surprise when one checks Marias Mon tail-male line. They as a rule have not been blessed with much longevity. There may just be something to this gene thing.

1.) Marias Mon (1993 to 2007) age 14 and 1/2 years (???)

2.) Wavering Monarch (1979 to 2004) age 25 years (normal)

3.) Majestic Light (1973 to 2000) age 17 years (colic)

4.) Majestic Prince (1966 to 1981) age 15 years (heart attack)

5.) Raise a Native (1961 to 1988) age 27 years (normal)

6.) Native Dancer (1950 to 1967) age 17 years (colic)

7.) Polynesian (1942 to 1959) age 17 years (colic)

[Maven]

You know, Pat, I really think there's a lot to be discovered with genetics-- longevity, class, production trends.

A legendary breeder once told me that he would never buy or keep a foal by a dominant stallion, if it wasn't the same color as the stallion. Call it foolery, but he had results... and funny enough, all his horses looked the same.

I know an example my dad and consultant both cited (separately) was that of looking for some white in the tail of any Cox's Ridge line horse. They were always the runners/producers.

[hpkingjr]

Wasn't Cox's Ridge a Rabicano with the white ticking in the flanks and "skunk" or "coontail" rings of white hair in the tail head? Anyone know the gentics on Rabicano inheritance?

[Intrinsic Worth]

You know, Pat, I really think there's a lot to be discovered with genetics-- longevity, class, production trends.

A legendary breeder once told me that he would never buy or keep a foal by a dominant stallion, if it wasn't the same color as the stallion. Call it foolery, but he had results... and funny enough, all his horses looked the same.

I know an example my dad and consultant both cited (separately) was that of looking for some white in the tail of any Cox's Ridge line horse. They were always the runners/producers.

In the breed of dog I show (scotties) we have a database of dogs who are 11 and older. They are trying to track the families that produce long lived dogs. Our old dog (soon to be 13) came from what seems to be a long lived line. His sire died at 15 1/2 and his grand sire died at 14 1/2.

[xfactor fan]

There may be a connectiion between rate of maturity and long life. Early maturity=early death, late maturity=longer life.

By breeding for two year old racers we may be cutting down the life span of those lines.

[Rokeby Forever]

The two things I always remembered about Maria's Mon:

1) His entire female family line was gray.

2) He defeated Unbridled's Song in the Champagne.

Wavering Monarch was as black and cherry as you could get - Majestic Light over Buckpasser. *at attention and saluting*

[geowarrior]

All I can say is that no matter what you think of Monarchos as a sire, I wish him a long and happy life.

[Taisjia]

As an owner of a Maria's Mon son, I hope my boy has a long and healthy life!!!! What a sad day for Pin Oak!!!!

[JCBloodstock]

Nice,nice stallion and a travesty to the industry.And even at a $7500 stud fee they were still selective in what they bred to him and if you didn't have one that they thought would nick with him,you didn't breed to him for no price.

Perhaps that is why this son of Wavering Monarch defied the odd's of success in the breeding shed !!!