Crosses for a mare I just bought ...

[TrueColours]

I have just bought a mare named "Regal Swan"

Here is the page on her to save you from looking it up:

REGAL SWAN, 1995, Regal Affair- Afleet Forever by Afleet.

YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
2000 She Is A Wild One,B,f,Wild Zone 6 51 6 6 9 142,009 ( 79) 1.11
North America 2 YO Record 10 2 0 3 70,175 (78 )
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 48 ( 79)
North America Dirt Sprints 36 5 4 6 86,671 (78 )
North America Dirt Routes 13 1 2 3 55,290 (78 )
North America Muddy/Sloppy 5 1 1 1 9,676 ( 71)
DP = 4-4-9-0-1 DI = 2.27 CD = 0.56 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
CBSSEP 2001 0200 $0 $12,484 ylg (16/17) $3,500

2001 Gold Chest,Ch,c,Gold Case Unraced
DP = 5-3-10-0-2 DI = 1.86 CD = 0.45

2002 Bizniz Man,Ch,g,Bianconi 3 20 3 3 4 49,887 ( 94) 0..98
North America Dirt Sprints 10 1 2 2 25,069 ( 85)
North America Dirt Routes 6 2 0 2 19,684 ( 94)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 1 0 0 6,536 ( 94)
North America All Weather Sprints 3 0 1 0 4,620 (78 )
North America All Weather Routes 1 0 0 0 514 ( 71)
DP = 3-6-16-0-1 DI = 1.89 CD = 0.38 AWD = 7.61

2004 It's No Trouble,Ch,g,Running Stag 2 9 0 2 0 8,689 ( 76) 0.27
North America 2 YO Record 4 0 1 0 5,906 ( 76)
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 1 0 1,666 ( 63)
North America All Weather Sprints 7 0 1 0 7,023 ( 76)
DP = 1-4-11-1-1 DI = 1.40 CD = 0.17
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 2005 0874 $7,000 $9,243 ylg (14/29) $7,500
ONTSEP 2005 0174 $10,158 $9,243 ylg ( 9/29) $7,500

2005 Alphabetina,B,f,Alphabet Soup Unraced
DP = 1-4-11-0-2 DI = 1.40 CD = 0.11
SIRE 1.46 Spi, 356str, 28%2yo, 11%1st, 15%Mud/616sts, 12%Tf/1128sts, AWD 7.3
DAM(sp) 0.79 Dpi, 2 2yostr/1wnr, 29%Mud/7sts, 1 Tfstr/0wnr, 2 Rtestr/2wnr, AWD 6.9

2006 Promise Me Wine,Ch,c,Cuvee Unraced
DP = 10-6-9-0-1 DI = 3.73 CD = 0.92
SIRE 0.00 Spi, 0str, 0%2yo, 0%1st, 0%Mud/0 0%Tf/0 0.0
DAM(sp) 0.79 Dpi, 2 2yostr/1wnr, 29%Mud/7sts, 1 Tfstr/0wnr, 2 Rtestr/2wnr, AWD 6.9
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 2007 1246 $37,000 $42,945 ylg (28/76) $10,000
KEESEP 2007 2761 $67,000 $42,945 ylg (14/76) $10,000

2007 Unnamed,f,Trajectory (Pending)
DP = 8-3-10-0-1 DI = 2.67 CD = 0.77

2nd Dam

AFLEET FOREVER, 1990, Afleet- Van Cleef (Uru) by =Rocelle (Arg).
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI

1995 Regal Swan,B,f,Regal Affair 2 12 2 0 1 26,716 ( 76) 0.93
North America 2 YO Record 9 2 0 1 25,974 ( 76)
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 1 5,200 ( 76)
North America Dirt Sprints 7 2 0 0 20,504 ( 74)
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 0 0 1,012 ( 74)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 720 ( 55)
DP = 5-4-15-0-2 DI = 1.74 CD = 0.38 AWD = 5.75
At 2 3rd Junior Champion S. (O) (40,000)
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 1996 726 $1,700 $3,440 ylg ( 4/ 5) $1,000
KEESEP 1996 3787 $3,000 $3,440 ylg ( 2/ 5) $1,000

1996 Bob's Regal Affair,B,c,Regal Affair 3 29 4 2 5 18,594 ( 79) 0.28
North America Dirt Sprints 19 3 1 3 14,120 ( 79)
North America Dirt Routes 10 1 1 2 4,474 ( 74)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 5 2 1 0 6,212 ( 73)
DP = 5-4-15-0-2 DI = 1.74 CD = 0.38 AWD = 6.58

1997 Dead Foal

1998 A Good Cross,B,c,Astro Unraced
DP = 9-1-4-0-0 DI = 6.00 CD = 1.36
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
ILLMAY 2000 0072 $8,500 $8,500 2yo ( 1/ 1) NA

2001 Afleet Cat,B,f,Z Z Cat 2 17 1 3 2 19,390 ( 83) 0.41
North America 2 YO Record 3 0 0 0 0 ( 43)
North America Dirt Sprints 17 1 3 2 19,390 ( 83)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 1 0 2,000 ( 64)
DP = 8-4-5-1-0 DI = 4.14 CD = 1.06 AWD = 6.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
ILLJUN 2003 0004 $10,000 $12,740 2yo ( 4/ 5) NA

2002 Afleet Nownforever,Dk B/,f,Allen Charge 1 6 1 0 1 3,578 ( 61) 0.23
North America Dirt Sprints 6 1 0 1 3,578 ( 61)
DP = 7-2-5-0-0 DI = 4.60 CD = 1.14 AWD = 6.00

2004 Afleet Girl,Ch,f,Allen Charge 2 5 1 0 1 9,790 ( 72) 0.63
North America 2 YO Record 3 0 0 0 690 ( 57)
North America Dirt Sprints 5 1 0 1 9,790 ( 72)
DP = 7-2-5-0-0 DI = 4.60 CD = 1.14 AWD = 6.00

2005 Denounceherforever,,c,Denouncer Unraced
DP = 6-1-6-1-0 DI = 2.50 CD = 0.86
SIRE 0.73 Spi, 22str, 38%2yo, 8%1st, 7%Mud/43sts, 0%Tf/5sts, AWD 6.4
DAM(up) 0.50 Dpi, 3 2yostr/1wnr, 25%Mud/8sts, 1 Tfstr/0wnr, 2 Rtestr/1wnr, AWD 6.2

3rd dam

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VAN CLEEF (URU), 1979, =Rocelle (Arg)- =Veroushka (Uru) by =Ker Ardan (Fr).
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1985 Crafty Judge,Ch,c,Rumbo 2 6 0 0 0 44 ( 57) 0.00
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0 ( 53)
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 0 0 44 ( 57)
DP = 2-0-3-2-3 DI = 0.54 CD = -0.40

1986 Bona Terra Baby,B,f,Rumbo Unraced
DP = 2-0-3-2-3 DI = 0.54 CD = -0.40

1987 Elarrih,Ch,f,Sharpen Up (Gb)
DP = 11-4-11-2-0 DI = 2.73 CD = 0..86
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1988 1332 $100,000 $169,000 ylg ( 9/17) NA

1988 Van Gold,Ch,f,Lemhi Gold 2 12 1 0 0 1,738 ( 66) 0.13
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 46 ( 59)
North America Dirt Routes 10 1 0 0 1,692 ( 66)
DP = 1-0-7-2-4 DI = 0.47 CD = -0.57 AWD = 8.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
TTHOCT 1989 57 $8,000 $10,800 ylg (11/19) NA
CALMAR 1990 294 $5,000 $15,050 2yo (12/14) NA

1989 Barren

1990 Afleet Forever,Ch,f,Afleet 2 4 0 0 0 0 ( 43) 0.00
North America 2 YO Record 3 0 0 0 0 ( 43)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0 ( 43)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 0 ( 33)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 0 0 ( 43)
DP = 8-3-7-2-0 DI = 2.64 CD = 0.85
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
FTKAPR 1992 2 $10,000 $58,857 2yo ( 7/ 7) $25,000

1991 Slews Fury,Dkbbr,c,Tsunami Slew 2 19 1 3 1 6,385 ( 74) 0.20
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 1 0 520 ( 58)
North America Dirt Sprints 13 1 3 0 5,909 ( 74)
North America Dirt Routes 6 0 0 1 476 ( 72)
DP = 4-2-4-2-0 DI = 2.00 CD = 0.67 AWD = 6.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1992 3195 $2,000 $14,918 ylg (22/22) $25,000

1992 Van Lobo,Ch,c,Wolf Power (Saf) 1 7 1 0 0 3,943 ( 71) 0.32
North America Dirt Sprints 4 1 0 0 3,574 ( 71)
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 0 0 369 ( 70)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 1 0 0 3,300 ( 71)
DP = 0-1-2-7-0 DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 1994 191 $5,500 $31,350 2yo ( 9/12) $12,500

1994 Mi Loba,Gr/Ro,f,Wolf Power (Saf) Unraced
DP = 0-1-2-7-0 DI = 0.25 CD = -0.60
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEENOV 1994 2475 $6,000 $13,720 wlg ( 7/10) $7,500

1995 Black Lobo,Dkbbr,g,Wolf (Chi) 4 27 0 3 3 11,847 ( 72) 0.21
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 0 ( 40)
North America Dirt Sprints 6 0 1 1 4,575 ( 72)
North America Dirt Routes 20 0 2 2 7,272 ( 71)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 0 52 ( 63)
DP = 4-2-0-2-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 1.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEENOV 1995 3149 $7,000 $6,500 wlg ( 1/ 2) NA

1996 Star Harbor,Ch,c,Risen Star Unraced
DP = 4-7-11-3-1 DI = 1.74 CD = 0.38
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1997 3496 $8,500 $5,814 ylg ( 2/ 7) $5,000
LOUMAR 1998 14 $8,000 $8,000 2yo ( 1/ 1) $5,000

1997 Slipped

1998 Lord O' The Manner,Ch,c,Prudent Manner (Ir Unraced
DP = 2-4-2-2-0 DI = 2.33 CD = 0.60

At some point, I would like to breed her to my stallion - Guaranteed Gold - and get a nice buckskin foal to run myself and hopefully get some credibility for GG as a possible race sire, but for the short term, I think I need to think "commercially" and breed her to something that already has some good, solid race credentials to produce a foal that has commercial appeal

I am in Ontario, Canada and owing to how late it is I need to limit the stallion choices to reasonably close proximity to me. Plus - with building a new barn and still needing to seed pastures and hay field and put up paddocks, I have got to stick with a lower stud fee for this year. Next year I can get a little crazier but this year just cant do so

Who are the "good deals" out there? Any up and coming stallions that would cross well with her? Any sell offs of breedings that might be of interest?

Alumni Hall and Weather Warning have both been suggested as good crosses with her, especially Weather Warning with Carson City in as the broodmare sire (owing to the fact that Cuvee - the sire of her 2006 colt - is by Carson City as well). Which cross do you all like with her - either these 2 stallions who are close by and easy for me to get to or another one that havent thought of that is in close proximity as well, in the $5000.00 and under range? Ontario or upper state New York would work well as I can easily ship here to those areas myself

The Asmussen's bought the 2006 Cuvee colt - Promise Me Wine. I am REALLY hoping that he goes out this year and next and kicks some butt out there which should definately help raise her value and the value of her foals!

Thanks so much for any and all opinions and assistance on this one!

[DDT]

TrueColours

I think you should look at Whiskey Wisdom, he is listed as 3.5K(CAN) and I assume he is close to you. This would be similar breeding to her good filly She Is A Wild One, by Wild Zone. I ran an e-nick or her and got an "A", and I know that means very little, however, I think if they are a good physical match it is worht a try at this late date.

DDT

[AscotStud]

I know we are a little out of the way from where you are, but Tejano Run has a nice filly now, Fleet Caroline who is out of an Afleet mare. She is a Stakes winner this year and just ran 2nd at Santa Anita in the American Beauty Handicap (last weekend) and was G2 placed at Del Mar last year. A winner on Dirt, Turf and Poly.

If you are at all interested send a PM. We have links to her races on our website

[TrueColours]

Interesting to pull the Werk ratings on her ...

Whiskey Wisdom crossed with her give an "A" rating and (+175%) and crossed with Weather Warning she is also an "A" with a (+370%) score but Alumni Hall wins hands down with a Werk of "A" (+465%)!

The DP's are also interesting

18 for Whiskey Wisdom, 20 for Weather Warning and 30 for Alumni Hall!

The DI's and CD's are pretty well the same across the board for all 3 stallions ...

So - if we can get all of this put together, looks like she is going to go to Alumni Hall this year and then I cross my fingers and pray for a superstar youngster from that cross!

[Galileo1998]

I was just about to bring up Tejano Run on another board you posted her details on. He is one of the best stallions available in Ontario.

Another I would consider, depending on how the pedigrees work together is Domasca Dan. He is only $1500 and is 10x the stallion that a lot of the $5,000 new kids on the block have any realistic hope of being.

I like Whisky Wisdom as a horse, and would breed a mare to him long, long before I'd breed a mare to Weather Warning, no matter what the enick rating says.

[TrueColours]

Ack! Just when I thought I had all of this figured out ... you guys go and throw some other good possibilities my way!

Ascot Stud - you are actually quite close. Until we get our paddock in she is going to the Stoney Creek area so just a little ways away from you!

...sigh... let me mull this one over.

[Maureen]

True Colours-we tried to buy this mare to send to Gone Fishin. Now we know why we didn't get a final reply from the seller. Give him a thought as well. He's even close to Stoney Creek!

[K~2]

Ack! Just when I thought I had all of this figured out ... you guys go and throw some other good possibilities my way!

Ascot Stud - you are actually quite close. Until we get our paddock in she is going to the Stoney Creek area so just a little ways away from you!

...sigh... let me mull this one over.

You'd really like Tejano Run. He's a chestnut with a belly spot. Right up your alley!

[SemparQuel]

My advice is for COMPADRE

Stands at Colebrook Farms Stallion Station in Uxbridge, Ontario
Very durable runner.

Considering that your mare is ND free, an outcross introducing ND through a champion (El Gran Senor), plus some good back german lines may be a reasonable and not expensive choice.
Note that two of the better products of Compadre (No Comprende and Millfleet) have argentinian roots.

[TrueColours]

Well - I am happy to report that I got my mare covered this morning, by Alumni Hall, who is a stunning stallion and a real gentleman as well

There was NO problem with his libido (!) - he came prancing and dancing down from the stallion barn to the breeding area and knew why he was there and was looking for my mare as soon as he walked into the barn. Everything was very low key, he was very relaxed, he got the job done and one of the assistants got a dismount sample of semen, put it on a slide and I viewed it under the microscope as well. NO doubt in my mind from viewing that sample that he also has excellent semen quality! And there are one heck of a lot of swimmers in there as well ...

So - I can say that both rumors are now laid to rest in my mind!

Now the long wait for the next 15 days until she gets checked to see if she caught or not ...

Wish us luck!