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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:29 am 
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The crop of K. Derby-caliber gray sophomores is short this year (2008).
The most reknown hopefuls are:

01. KING'S SILVER SON -- Impressive late rushing style. Made me
remember Giacomo.

02. Z FORTUNE -- He was impressively improving until his last race.
Another late rusher, so it seemed. Will see.

03. LIBERTY BULL -- Improving too.

Any other missing case?


(p.s. previous list of hopefuls: http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... sophomores)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:06 am 
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Gray sophomores nominated for the Triple Crown:

01.___BLIND HERO
02.___CRUZ BLANCA
03.___DISCREET TREASURE
04.___GATTOPARDO***********************(Stakes)
05.___GODOLPHIN GRAY
06.___HARLEM ROCKER
07.___KINGS SILVER SON******************(Stakes)
08.___KNOCK OUT CAT
09.___LIBERTY BULL***********************(Stakes)
10.___MACHO AGAIN_(winner)
11.___MEAL PENALTY_(winner)
12.___MONBA_(winner)
13.___MR RUFF
14.___NIKKI’SGOLDENSTEED****************(Stakes)
15.___OVEREXTENDED*********************(Stakes)
16.___REAL APPEAL************************(Stakes)
17.___ROYAL HUDSON**********************(Stakes)
18.___SACRED JOURNEY_(winner)
19.___SOUTHWEST
20.___STEVIL
21.___STONES RIVER
22.___SWEET SUGAR
23.___TEXAS WILDCATTER******************(Stakes)
24.___UNBRIDLED REFRAIN
25.___UNWRITTEN RULE
26.___WESLEY
27.___WHITE SHOES
28.___WONDER MAN***********************(Stakes)
29.___Z FORTUNE*************************(Stakes)



(p.s. A curious note: The horse named Etched, appears as "sorrel"
rather than "chestnut". See for yourself at:

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/nominations.a ... me&dir=asc )


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Hmmm, Macho Again looks quite sabino on some of his legs. Looks like a late bloomer with a one kick running style. Made me remember High Echelon.


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Interesting that a Thoroughbred would be sorrel in color...in the ped database on this site he is listed as chestnut. When I think of sorrel, I think of Quarter Horses.

I don't think Jet Run is nominated to the TC, but he is grey/roan sin of Waquoit and is a full brother to Water Cannon who ran in the 2004 Preakness.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/jet+run4

http://www.pedigreequery.com/water+cannon


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Watch his chances! :wink:

TEXAS WILDCATTER: http://www.pedigreequery.com/texas+wildcatter


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Seems like this year there will be no gray in the Kentucky Derby.


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Eight Belles (by Unbridled's Song) has talent but she seems more probable within the sophomore fillies.


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Two Blue Grass hopefuls to be added to the list:

MONBA http://www.pedigreequery.com/monba
STEVIL http://www.pedigreequery.com/stevil


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Now there is a legitimate K.Derby hopeful: Monba

Curiously, during the 1970s, there was a gray horse who raced in the old El Comandante racetrack named Mon-Va. But this one was named in honor of a jockey: Ramon "Mon" Vazquez. I suspect that Mon-Va was by Gray Phantom but his name does not appear here in the database. Perhaps it can be included.

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Now there is a legitimate K. Derby hopeful: Z Fortune

With his latest performance he should be re-inserted among the horses
to watch. Both hopefuls are late rushers, a good trait for the Derby.


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Jorge wrote:
Now there is a legitimate K.Derby hopeful: Monba

Curiously, during the 1970s, there was a gray horse who raced in the old El Comandante racetrack named Mon-Va. But this one was named in honor of a jockey: Ramon "Mon" Vazquez. I suspect that Mon-Va was by Gray Phantom but his name does not appear here in the database. Perhaps it can be included.

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Now there is a legitimate K. Derby hopeful: Z Fortune

With his latest performance he should be re-inserted among the horses
to watch. Both hopefuls are late rushers, a good trait for the Derby.


Mon Va was indeed by Gray Phantom and has been added to the database.

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Nessa,

Thank you so much for the addition of namesake MON VA.

Hmmm, good company for him ---El Pitirre and El Españoleto!

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/broadway+traffic

As far I remember his name was written in the program with a dash (MON-VA) but who knows if this was an error in the program. :roll: :?: But I know he was named for that jockey.

The more talented MONBA (2005) derives his name from his parents.


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Interesting talented grays for the 2008 Epsom Derby:

01. CENTENNIAL (IRE)(2005)
02. CITY LEADER (2005) (IRE)(2005)
03. KANDAHAR RUN (GB)(2005)
04. YAHRAB (IRE)(2005)

The last gray to win the Epsom Derby was Airborne in 1946 ---62 years ago!


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crossed fingers for Monba!! :wink: Just don't know if he really can hang with some of the other potentials,but you never know. Thanks for the grey derby watch J!

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Fresh from the oven: add this talented gray to the list of Guineas (Japan Guineas) winners:

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44697


Captain Thule (gray colt 2005): http://www.pedigreequery.com/captain+thule


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For race oeder logon to: http://japanracing.jp/card/index.html

then click to: Nakayama 11R The Satsuki Sho (Japanese 2000 Guineas)


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