Winstrol

[ratherrapid]

a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone. virilization and masculinization are very common even at low doses.

performance enhancing effects:
1. increase in strength
2. increase in muscle size
3. increases in vascularity

you may assume for the horse that administration of winstrol (stanazol) would cause less effort per stride and improve cardiovascular endurance due to increased vascularization of the muscle tissue.

the effect of winstrol can be further enhanced by adminsitration of other nutrients. bodybuilders "stack" winstrol with various other ingredients.

Where I race in Kansas anabolic steroids are a prohibited class III substance. As a side note, this is also the substance that got Ben Johnson disqualified from his Olympic medal.

[horsenuts]

a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone. virilization and masculinization are very common even at low doses.

performance enhancing effects:
1. increase in strength
2. increase in muscle size
3. increases in vascularity

you may assume for the horse that administration of winstrol (stanazol) would cause less effort per stride and improve cardiovascular endurance due to increased vascularization of the muscle tissue.

the effect of winstrol can be further enhanced by adminsitration of other nutrients. bodybuilders "stack" winstrol with various other ingredients.

Where I race in Kansas anabolic steroids are a prohibited class III substance. As a side note, this is also the substance that got Ben Johnson disqualified from his Olympic medal.

Well, it's legal in racing so I have no problem with it. And if BB received steroids so do many of his competitors if not most..... remeber they are legal.


People keep wanting to dis BB but lets remember how he ended up in Dutrow's barn. He broke his maiden in grand fashion turning the heads of all racing participants. I still believe BB is a stone runner who like so many modern TBs has a very limited shelf life. He gave 5 fantastic performances and that is about all most top horses of this era have in them with the rare exception such as Curlin.

[westover]

go to "Quick Belmont Takes"

[Stevie Belmont]

Doesn't this stuff damage the liver after long term use?

[hdembski]

a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone. virilization and masculinization are very common even at low doses.

performance enhancing effects:
1. increase in strength
2. increase in muscle size
3. increases in vascularity

you may assume for the horse that administration of winstrol (stanazol) would cause less effort per stride and improve cardiovascular endurance due to increased vascularization of the muscle tissue.

the effect of winstrol can be further enhanced by adminsitration of other nutrients. bodybuilders "stack" winstrol with various other ingredients.

Where I race in Kansas anabolic steroids are a prohibited class III substance. As a side note, this is also the substance that got Ben Johnson disqualified from his Olympic medal.

Well, it's legal in racing so I have no problem with it. And if BB received steroids so do many of his competitors if not most..... remeber they are legal.


People keep wanting to dis BB but lets remember how he ended up in Dutrow's barn. He broke his maiden in grand fashion turning the heads of all racing participants. I still believe BB is a stone runner who like so many modern TBs has a very limited shelf life. He gave 5 fantastic performances and that is about all most top horses of this era have in them with the rare exception such as Curlin.

your hung up on the "legal thing". It's like me convincing my eye doctor i need mary jane for my glaucoma! We know it's legal but now talk to me about how ETHICAL it is to give a horse something he doesn't need which will absolutely have side effects just to make some money. Because everyone does it, is it right? If your teen girl comes home and says "i'm having sex because all my friends are" is that ok with you? No you'd try and protect her. Who is there to protect the horses?

[ratherrapid]

Steviie--greetings. enjoyed your Belmont takes. i (profess) to know nothing about Winstrol, but the Google shows Winstrol as the same anabolic steroid used by body builders with the same debilitating long term effects. Are we starting to understand perhaps why certain great horses have come up infertile. I am in shock about these steroid revelations. I never considered it because steroids are illegal where I race. Where has the racing press been on this stuff?

[30west]

Winstrol is a fast acting steriod that works within a couple of days of administration, the affects of winstrol do not last very long. Maybe 2 weeks at max. It is not like test or deca durobalin that can stay in the system for months. If, now that is if his last shot was on the 15th of april. Which I dont believe. The affects of winstrol would have been out of the horses system by the derby. Steriods had nothing to do with him not showing up for the Belmont. They are not machines. They are animals!

[hdembski]

Winstrol is a fast acting steriod that works within a couple of days of administration, the affects of winstrol do not last very long. Maybe 2 weeks at max. It is not like test or deca durobalin that can stay in the system for months. If, now that is if his last shot was on the 15th of april. Which I dont believe. The affects of winstrol would have been out of the horses system by the derby. Steriods had nothing to do with him not showing up for the Belmont. They are not machines. They are animals!

just like the same drug had nothing to do with Ben Johnson setting aworld record? Come on now, of course roids affect performance. Why is it being banned in some states already? The horse had nothing wrong with him based on suggested use of winstrol to be using it. They give elderly people steroids for "COPD" and it's been clinically shown to have no effect on the disease. If BB had lost weight or appetite or was some show horse that needed to bulk up then yes. The fact "everyone uses it" or "your at a disadvantage if you don't use it" doesn't make it right. As long as the stuff is used these questions will never go away, they need to be banned, THEN let's see who's best.

[Foggytrip]

Winstrol had zero to do with that horses performance, good, bad, or otherwise

[dray33]

Winstrol had zero to do with that horses performance, good, bad, or otherwise

It works, and it absolutely enhances performance. Just look at the pp's to the horses claimed by the users. Case closed.

[Foggytrip]

Dray, everyone has the ability to purchase Winstrol. If it were the lone drug moving these horses up I could go out and claim from Lake, or Dutrow and not worry about horses crashing. That simply isnt the case.

[dray33]

The question isn't legaliity. It isn't about who can purchase it, or administer it. It isn't about other drugs, which I agree exist and are being used.

The question is Winstrol: Does it enhance performance? The answer is: Of course. Administering steroids to enhance performance is obvious, from human athletes to equine. Why is that so tough for people to understand? Why does it need any defense? The use is obvious, the effect is obvious. It's legal and used, I get it.

[Tucumcari]

Well if everyone else is doing it, and you have to run against them it'd almost be silly not to, because as you all say... it is legal.
That said, I admire the people who train without! Vienna, Mandella, Sahadi(sp). Good for them. AND their horses look good!

[Foggytrip]

Im not trying to give you a hard time Drew, but if Winstrol was the drug that moves these horses forward why cant you or I claim one off Dutrow or Lake and keep it steady? Winstrol particular is the steroid that Im addressing. To say that it enhances performance without any data is dicey. In human Athletes its used in Cutting cycles, and to drop water. It is one of the few steroids that do not allow for water retention. Its gains are minimal even in humans, the dosage given to horses is so so small. To take Winstrol correctly a human needs to inject it every day, its a fast acting steroid. It doesnt have a very long activity rate in horses, or humans. So say the normal procedure for a barn is giving "winstrol" once a month. That wouldnt do anything, especially the amount they give which is 10ccs. A human bodybuilder, or athlete will take more than that in a 3 day period and be injected daily. Drew, the Winstrol is one of the few steroids that actually keep these horses steady and eating without enhancing ability.

[dray33]

Well if everyone else is doing it, and you have to run against them it'd almost be silly not to, because as you all say... it is legal.

Boy that is a depressing statement. It's really about that isn't it? You're right Tuc, the people who run without it ARE the fools. Basically, this is what our leadership has left us. Decades of non-regulation and lazy "business as usual" has created this: Use steroids... if you don't compete at your own damned risk.

I'm not joking. If they don't ban them from racing, they should make it mandatory to use them. You MUST inject your horses with steroids every single month. Horse found to be clean, running without drugs should be fined. Oh wait, it IS that way. If you run clean, you ARE fined. You race at a disadvantage.