Anyone got any nice inexpensive broodmares for sale?

[dray33]

[dray33]

that's my favorite icon on this forum, the shocked face:

[marg]

To answer Joe Graded stakes winner---------Horse meat price at Kitchener Ontario Canada is between $.25 and $.35 a pound right now.Hardly worth paying $750.00 to ship a horse into Canada to sell it for meat.Let me see , 1000 pound animal goes at $350.00 at best , just in case you can not do the math.All canadians are not meat dealers.In fact I have a mare in my herd that was purchased In the USA that was shipped in the USA.for meat.We saw her pedigree and had her saved and shipped to Canada for use as a broodmare.Marg

[briarhalo]

You go Marg! I too took a little offense to that considering I am only 1/2 hour from Kitchener! Actually just recently saved a mare that was going to be taken to Kitchener and no doubt we know where she would have ended up!

[surprisewind]

Bottom line here, BJ .. You've stepped WAY over the line on this one and need to stop, close your mouth and pay better attention. You long ago cross over into Zealotville and you are only hurting yourself and your cause at this point. Preaching never wins support.

You've hijacked someone's wanted thread and turned it into yet another 4 page rant on the evils of horse breeding in general and horse slaughter in particular.

You attacked someone you don't know for no other reason than you suspected she MIGHT be looking for horse meat SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE LIVES IN CANADA? Can you say 'racist'? I knew you could. You can be just as racist against a Canadian as you can an Asian or Iraqi.

And it DOES come down to reading comprehension and COMMON SENSE because if you HAD common sense and good reading comprehension, you would have seen from Kat's first post:

Still looking for some really nice girls. I have been very blessed with the mares that I have been able to lease this season. Will look at the older ladies between 13-17. Thanks guys keep em coming!

... she has also been looking to LEASE horses.

You can't exactly send a horse back when the lease expires if you've shipped it off to slaughter.

Get off the cross. Someone else needs the wood.

"Sick" & pathetic comes to mind when I think of the "herd" and "gang" mentality of all of YOU, who are the ones doing the name calling and the ranting. The really "fun" thing about talking to people like you, Sam...You can't point to one thing you do to make the world a better place for anything or anyone can you? You are hardly one to tell anyone when they've crossed over the line. But I'm sure for a moment, you felt good to think you could.

hmmm... BJ, what have YOU done for the world lately? Do you have barnful of sad rescue horses all clamoring for you? Did you donate a good portion of your income to tsunami relief? Do you help out at soup kitchens or change the depends of elderly bedridden people? Wait -- I bet you cured AIDS..

When a person becomes zealous to the point of sounding like a maniac, most other people will tune out. There has to be a better way of getting your point across -- accusing the Canadian of being "fishy" makes me want to ship her some horses just for the hell of it.

There are too many preachers in the pulpit these days, and not enough parishioners carrying out good works.

[Jenarby]

Actually, she does. She followed a particular gelding and researched to find him when he appeared to be in danger after some injuries. She purchased him and will be bringing him home soon.

Please keep in mind what Rogue said. Opinions are good, bashing and flaming is not.

[Joe]

Until our "Canadian friends" make the sale of human consumption horsemeat illegal and the exportation to their "horsemeat consumable" friends the French illegal, I don't like any of them. If they liked horses they would stop that. I say spend less time criticisizing the US and get your hourse in order. Get horseflesh out of the meat markets and we'll have an intelligent conversation.

You can say all the bad things you want about the
USA, but we don't sell horseflesh in the meat markets. Canada does and so does France.

[madelyn]

Oh gosh, what a hot topic. I earlier defended StealingKat in BC because she was so far from the market it was not even conceivable. I live in Kentucky and we have a slaughter sale here every two weeks or so. I have bought a lot of horses there. But for BJ, you go girl, stay with being a responsible breeder yourself, the world may not follow. As for the horse meat market, well the market exists also in Canada, they eat horsemeat in Quebec. Not all the meat processed there goes to Europe (see my earlier posts). I grew up in Montreal. BTW know what I saw on sale today here in my very own Kroger? Ground buffalo. Talk about weird and endangered.

[StealingKat]

I find Joe's comments to be very sad Seems he dislikes all Canadians cuz some of them send horses to slaughter. (or at least that is how I read his post I may have read it incorrectly) Not everyone in Canada believes in it I am afraid. Very very sad Joe Joe must have had a horrible experience to speak like that, so guys maybe we should cut him some slack. No one lashes out with that kind of anger without a reason. Maybe he has a valid one and maybe he doesn't. We won't be able to change his mind so I really think this thread should end... Once again a HUGE thank you and great big hug to all who have sent me mares! I am off to a fantastic (re)start, lookout though I'll have some great ones out there next year

[Ryeno]

Sorry Kat,

Joe didnt have to go their.What he posted is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard.Because your leader GWB is a war mongering idiot should I hate you Joe?I know a guy who got robbed in Philly when he was there are you a thief to?Joe you seem to suffer from some sort of disorder.You should seek help.You say you must hate canadians and people in our country for selling horse meat.Dont americans in Texas do that?And dont you think your Americans are the ones who are buying them and bringing them up here?I could sit here and spell out for you everything Canadians do for Americans and how the majority of the time we are the ones up here that get screwed by your government (NAFTA,the lumber fiasco etc)But I dont hate YOU because of that.All countries have faults Joe but those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones because you do not live in a perfect country and I dont think anyone does.It really saddens me how many truly classless and ignorant people there are out there.Joe you wonder why there are people who hate America and their people?Maybe you should look in the mirror and you'll find the answer.

Ryeno
PS: I am done with this topic.I have many friends that are Americans and have personally been treated well in the states and I am not intending to be disrepecting to the good American people on this board.

[briarhalo]

Joe.....you self righteous little person! And where were you when I came on this board a couple weeks ago asking for help to save a horse that was going the slaughter route? Hmmmm? Funny thing is all that responded was one American and all others were Canadians offering her an excellent home! Also, in case you didn't realise, the plant in Owen Sound has been shut down thus leaving only one, as far as I know. I beleive there are more than one in the States. To all the other Americans on this board I mean absolutely no offense to you whatsoever, please do not take any. You have been more than kind on this list. But this comment from Joe, just gets me riled. Oh, and by the way, that mare I mentioned? I have provided a home for her for the last month so that she can be shipped back to the States at the beginning of February!
Claire

[marg]

I agree with Briarhalo.I also have a lot of American friends.The mare we saved from the Kill came to us with big orange kill numbers on her hip.She was that close to the end.She is a great broodmare and maybe someday I will write a Black Beauty type book from her mouth after she has her first stakes winner.She was in the eastern USA on the actual kill place.It was a few years ago-------I do not know if that particular place is still in operation-------but it was in the USA and it never occurred to me to dislike or blame Americans on the whole because my mare was at a kill plant.When we got her my husband and I agreed that she would live with us till she died.She had been through enough.When a mare at our place died during foaling,she was near the barn when the dead stock man came to pick up the body.She rounded up her two new friends ,a pair of yearlings ,drove them as far away as possible ,stood in front of them and stood there and shook.She was terrified.Don't know what she saw at the kill place but she was really scared.End of story.

[Jessi P]

I have to give props to our very own Marli, who is out there "in the trenches" so to speak, buying directly from killer sales and helping coordinate rescues, transport, and temporary homes for horses in immediate danger every day.

My hats off to you Marli (Lisa). I dont know anyone else who does as much as you do for horses in need. You are an asset to our sport.


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[surprisewind]

Excellent post, Jessi P. I think we could all learn a thing or two from Marli's efforts.
I know that every time I get a little smug about the little that I do, I think about the tremendous time and energy and money others are putting in, and can only feel pale in comparison. Especially now, when I have to seek a home for one of my own.

[wilf]

Hey Guys is this thread still going? Ithink that I was here long ago and was an early pugilist before I explained myself to Kat and cleared things up .I am no saint but one winter at Penn National I bought a horse ;6yr old g; on a cold night after he ran last and just two days before he was headed to the horror show that is New Holland Auctions.I gave a little over meat price and gave him the winter off. Over the next four years he was a wonderful servant to me winning 10 races and almost $100,000. all in Canada. When he indicated that he needed another career a Canadian school gave him a home and spoiled him rotten and to this day they still have not eaten him.He was/is the sweetest horse I ever knew ...One Way Fellow was his name.