Anyone got any nice inexpensive broodmares for sale?

[Joe]

Actually, I just went through an looked at all the posts from all the Canadians and it was beyond my expectations as a nation of complainers and mal-contents and American wanna-be's. Every one of you would die for a green card or to be an American. It's not my fault your were born there.

I will tell you some facts, you are a dysfunctional socialist country that cannot defend itself. It depends on the US for international security, yet does not pass up an opportunity to hurt it's defender. With it's French culture, it is hypocritical, at least in Quebec.

All the 9/11 terrorists to our country came through Canada, thanks. We really appreciate that.

Call it racist, which it isn't, or call it what you will, you people have to get that country straightened out. You've got Al-Qaida living in Toronto.

Clean house. I'm in favor of shutting the border down until you do.

[Joe]

That wasn't for you Judith. I was just reading some of the other posts. My post to you was sincere. Good luck with your endeavours and keep in touch. My email is listed, keep me up to date.

[StealingKat]

Joe,
We have LOTS of terrorists living here in Vancouver.(from MANY different countries) It is horrid, those of us born in Canada are truely horrified by it. Also can't figure out why the country lets known criminals (serious bad dudes not just minor league,) and mafia into the country either? Trust me the average person wants them shipped out but more often than not they ship more in. Why I'll never understand. Yup we got some problems but we are still a very young country. The kinks will get figured out at some point. Nope don't want to live in the states. Love to visit but love coming home ... ( my family is from Minnesota, Darn Vikings anyhow...) Like my free health care, like being passive and laid back, love not having to be politically correct. Too much to give up here I am afraid! I think they are working on some eye scan thingy at the borders to make sure the bad guys stay where they are supposed too. Not sure what else to say.. I've got it pretty good

PS you are correct about us not being able to defend ourselves.. I think we have like 6 dead subs and a couple fighter planes but our boys are over there defending us just the same, got a cousin who is repairing helicopters on the front as we speak.)

[briarhalo]

Just out of curiosity Wilf.....what was the name of that Canadian school he went to? Maybe one day, you and I will bump into each other at Fort Erie....lol.
Claire

[briarhalo]

Hmmm, Joe isn't New Holland in the US? Yup, thought so.

[Linda in TX]

Actually, I just went through an looked at all the posts from all the Canadians and it was beyond my expectations as a nation of complainers and mal-contents and American wanna-be's. Every one of you would die for a green card or to be an American. It's not my fault your were born there.

All the 9/11 terrorists to our country came through Canada, thanks. We really appreciate that.

Call it racist, which it isn't, or call it what you will, you people have to get that country straightened out. You've got Al-Qaida living in Toronto.

And the US has Joe living in Pennsylvania. Aren't we lucky...?

Joe, if Emperor George hears you blasting Texas for having horse slaughter plants like you're blasting Canada he'll declare war on your neighborhood.

However, I'm still mad about being called a "racist". I'm not that at all.

Of course you aren't. Few will mistake your rants for "racism." Most will just consider it "insanity" and leave it at that.

[Ryeno]

Actually, I just went through an looked at all the posts from all the Canadians and it was beyond my expectations as a nation of complainers and mal-contents and American wanna-be's. Every one of you would die for a green card or to be an American. It's not my fault your were born there.

I will tell you some facts, you are a dysfunctional socialist country that cannot defend itself. It depends on the US for international security, yet does not pass up an opportunity to hurt it's defender. With it's French culture, it is hypocritical, at least in Quebec.

All the 9/11 terrorists to our country came through Canada, thanks. We really appreciate that.

Call it racist, which it isn't, or call it what you will, you people have to get that country straightened out. You've got Al-Qaida living in Toronto.

Clean house. I'm in favor of shutting the border down until you do.

Joe,

What you wrote about our country is absolutley hilarious.Where did you get this information from?Oh yeah right from your Government that used the propoganda of weapons of mass destruction to invade Iraq!How many weapons did they find over there again?Im still waiting for that number?And lets see you stated that ALL the terrorists came out of Canada but Joe go do some homework about that one cause if you go and do your research you will see that 12 of the hijackers had student visa for the US which unfortunatly cant be obtained via Canada.Another thing,you say we are a defensless country,well our milatary now is a bit of a joke and I will give you that but lucky for us we dont piss off 90% of the world.And again I implore you to do a little homework on the subject of World War 2 as if it wasnt for a group of young CANADIAN soldiers on the front lines of Vimy Ridge(Which was the major turning point of turning back the Germans and getting the upperhand in the war) you Americans may have still be speaking German.You also state that any Canadian would die for a green card.LMAO go take a look pal there where more Americans last year trying to become Canadian then there was vice versa and as much as I like most Americans and dont mind going on holidays there once in a while I can assure you I as well as the majority of Canada would rather live here thanks.You also keep bringing up all the numbers of horses exported from slaughter in Canada but you either blindly wont post the same numbers that the US export.And we are not completely of misuse to you as after your people have pillaged us of our energy resources and water,of which your country is in a dangerously low supply and your counrties bullying tactics to our PM about missle defense(a complete sham) and the US attemped expropriation of oil reserves in the Nortwest Territories(which you will never have access too)Again your comments are IGNORANT no matter how you try and spin it.Gee you may watch Crossfire a little to much.As far as our country being malcontents and complainers i'd like you to prove that one.I will admit we have some unsavory people in this country Joe,but not to the extent the American goverment claims it is.And if you want to believe your leaders that have time and time has lied to there people than so be it.Unfortunatly the majority of your facts,sans the slaughter of horses are misguided and plain wrong.I am sorry you are who you are.When i read your initial post when I first came to this board I thought you were not a bad guy!Damn Canadian hopefullness

Ryeno

[marg]

Here I am again-----Joe I saw your math-------You forgot the difference in our dollar-----Quite abit-----so WE BAD CANADIANS are going to be STUPID enough to pay US dollars for the animal,US dollars for the gas and US dollars for the trucking and get $.35 CANADIAN a pound.Why do you think it is Canadians that are doing all the importing?I know that $.35 is the price now at best because I know someone who was down to the yards to try to buy some sound horses to redirect them to something else and the price was between $.25 and $.35 a pound.That was last week.All our meat prices went down, horse,beef ,and sheep over a year ago when the borders were closed.There is no way you can get $650. per Thoroughbred horse.Anyhow I am glad that you are not running our business affairs------bankrupt----very quickly.Marg.

[marg]

I forgot I would not take a green card if you gave it to me!I LOVE MY HOME!!!!!!!!!!!The USA a great place for a holiday,I just wouldn't want to live there ahead of Canada.Marg

[Jenarby]

Come on guys, play nice would you?
How did this thread turn into bashing each other's countries?
Kat, did you find all the horses you need or where you at all interested in that mare I posted?

[wilf]

Geez its hard to get a word in here nowadays and for everyone to hear I am the voice of of reason without bias as I was born in England emigrated to Australia, now live in florida with my American wife and I race in Canada and I think you are all crazy. The U.S.A. AND Canada are extraordinary beautiful countries full of amazing people full of generosity and kindness ,unfortunately those folks rarely make the headlines. BOTH NATIONS stood shoulder to shoulder in the only great conflict that justified human sacrifice; W.W.11. Now get over this pettiness and give me some good news, I am tired from work today and am ticked off as the vet bills get bigger each year. Oh and for the record the only thing about horse slaughter that should be absolutely jumped all over is the abuse and inhumane treatment of these companion animals in transport and treatment at sales venues and slaughterhouses They are not cattle and even those poor creatures get a raw deal that I find abominable. The first step is the toughest and the road which must be travelled to reach the goal which most of you seem to aspire to of no horse slaughter is to improve drastically the treatment of these animals then you can move on to responsible breeding to lower the numbers of unwanted animals that inflate the problem these days. OH Briarhalo the school is called ICANTER and is sponsored by UNICEF amongst others I believe,...... I need a hug where"s Stealing Kat?

[Joe]

Boy, I love to rile up the Canadians. I got the right buttons to push and here comes a 5 page reply. I really do enjoy it.

New Holland is out in Amish country near Lancaster, PA.

Texas does have 2 slaughterhouses near Lone Star, which almost became an issue at the Breeders Cup, but was squashed.

I'm getting to like you StealingCat, you're ok.

Yes, I live and breed in PA which has been a hard road. We did get slot machines and expect purses to exceed Aqueduct in 2 years. So now it's not so bad to be a PA Breeder.

[Joe]

Ryeno, I don't know why you don't like me anymore. I've created the longest thread in ages. I am sarcastic at times and sometimes seek a response. I think it was all good and a bunch of us expressed our thoughts and ideas. Some of mine were somewhat facetious, as I don't hate Canadians and don't hold them personally responsible for 9/11, but do want the Govt. to clean up immigration as I do our Govt.

I think all of us want to clean up the slaughter mess. If it wasn't Canada it would be Mexico or somewhere driveable. Only by making it illegal in North and Central America will it help. Once we take the profit out of it, it will die.

[Shannon]

Joe, to clarify my comment on you being racist, this was the quote from your post that got my back up...
"Until our "Canadian friends" make the sale of human consumption horsemeat illegal and the exportation to their "horsemeat consumable" friends the French illegal, I don't like any of them. "
Now, doesn't that sound just a bit racist to you??

And for your information, here are the numbers of horses from US slaughter plants for EXPORT. Read them, then comment (I got the info off of the US government site)
2003 50,062
2004 66,367
On average, over 1000 horses/week were slaughtered in the US in 2004. Remind me again why only Canadians are bad for horse slaughter?

As far as me accusing you of being racist, I will not apologize until you realize we are not all to be painted with the same brush.

Also, for your info, meat prices in Canada right now SUCK!! I just rescued 2 from a local meat buyer for $500 for both of them. Combined weight of them both was around 1600lbs. Do the math...That is less then 0.32 per pound.
No one single person (not commercial meat buyers) would in any way profit from buying American mares, shipping them up here, then selling them for meat. You could buy 2 dozen horses here for the cost of 1 from the US. Don't forget that to cross the border you need a Coggins, and health cert, as well as paying GST at the border. SO.. let's do some figuring.
Say I buy 1 mare from Kentucky. Just to ship her I am looking at $1200 US (about 1800 Can). A coggins and health cert would cost around $100 US(135 Can). Lets say I paid $1000 US for the mare(1250 Can). SO... my total cost to ship the mare here would be at least $2250 Can. Why pay so much to send her for meat when I could buy at LEAST 5 horses at the local auction for that much?
A mare that cost $2250, say an approx 1100lb mare, would net maybe, if your lucky, $385.00 at 0.35/lb. Just doesn't make sense to me!!!

[StealingKat]

Aww heck,
Wilf I'll hug anyone ( I am naturally adorable and very cute ) BIG CYBER HUG sent in your general direction! Damn Canucks we are way to friendly..... and us norwegians can squeeze the dickens out of you , strong like ox, smart like stick..LOL (picturing horns on head and leather heidi outfit!) I MUST be from Canada I think I am hilarious.. Gotta go...Did anyone answer my bullintheheather thred?