Rachel Alexandra.....you choose

[brogers]

Over on TrueNicks they are running a competition of sorts to mate Rachel Alexandra http://tinyurl.com/qahbdj

[jagger]

I guess it depends to some extent if the goal is breed to race or sell. Some have proposed Curlin. I think he is a very poor choice on both counts compared to A.P. Indy. There may be better breed to race than A.P. but an unproven stallion to Rachel?

[griff]

jagger

what is your "breed-to-sell" stallion??

griff

[jagger]

Breed to sell = commercial breeding. More emphasis put on a hot or expensive stallion rather than a stallion whose pedigree is actually more fitting for the pedigree of the dam.

Yikes! I forgot to look up gold digger for you and now I am at my other job. I can tell you that a Mr. P inbreeding which would include a gold digger inbreeding has produced ~ 100 GSWers. Check tomorrow for certain, griff.

[griff]

Do you think Smart Strike would produce a commercial foal??

Actually, proven or not, I believe Curlin would probably produce the highest selling foal..

griff

[jagger]

Definitely, Smart Strike would be considered a commercial stallion.

I think Curlin is a great race horse but like all who have gone before him, he will have to prove himself in the breeding shed before he becomes a top selling, commercial, stallion. He will have a long way to go to catch up to A.P. and I think it is VERY doubtful that he ever will. IMHO, A.P. has the best pedigree now and perhaps, ever.

[ArchDandy]

If I could choose= ghostzapper

[jrgators]

dang jagger...the best ever! Wow!

I love a.p. don't get me wrong, and he's the man when it comes to commerical stallions, longevity, etc. But I would argue ever.

But I do think he'd produce a more valuable foal with RA than Curlin.

Now if Curlin proves his talents in the breeding shed! Church is out! He will explode on the scene.

[hpkingjr]

Bernardini gets my vote. Returns almost all the key horses in RA's pedigree.

[walaa]

Statement, that's where I would send her first. Let the roasting begin

[Lucy]

Rahy.

Total outcross to RA & has shown a liking for ND-line mares....not to mention soundness & class.

[brogers]

I think that you will find Rahy isn't going to be serving mares next year.

[jagger]

jrgators,


See if you can top A.P.'s 10 reines and 11 chefs in the first four generations. Three up close reines. Full of double copy mares who have a total of 69 black type foals in the first 4 generations. For me, the best EVER.

[griff]

jrgators

Breeding Curlin to very good mares, especially mares like RA will help him explode out of the breeding shed.. Using RA this way would produce a very commercail foal and hopefully enhance Curlin's value as a stallion

griff

[Joltman]

Breeeding RA to mule creates a commercial foal.

On the other hand - looking at Lotta Kim's pedigree on the forum - it looks like a Christmas tree. Hail to Reason, Raise a Native top and bottom, Ribot, Pocahontas, Bold Ruler, Turn To. So they breed her to Medaglia d Oro and pick up a cross of Northern Dancer.

I would say its time to outcross. Rahy would be good or something else by the Blushing Groom line - so I vote for...Swain

jm