Another thread on inbreeding

Roger · Postby **Roger** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:10 am

I was thinking about back in the dark ages when I was an Ag-Ed major and what I was taught about inbreeding. Back then inbreeding was something you did with herds. It was very close-up, brother sister, sire to daughters and dams to sons. It was a high waste practice early on in the hopes getting a few superior individuals. Culling was the secret. These superior individuals would then be bred back un-related individuals and to some close relatives. The King Ranch had some individuals who only had two horses in the second remove.

Lisann · Postby **Lisann** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:13 am

Some Arabian horses have pedigrees like that. It's viewed as a way to get extreme type.

Roger · Postby **Roger** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:38 am

I think that most of our foundation stock was bred like that up close. I think that it could still be a sound breeding tactic, if one had enough mares by a really good sire and if that sire had some really good sons at stud. For racing purposes you "might" have to sacrifice the F1's, but F2's and out crosses should payoff on the track. No one wants breed for two generations and no one wants to breed and cull. I really don't think that there are many breeders who know what "type" means. I'm not sure I do.

karenkarenn · Postby **karenkarenn** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:23 pm

Lisann
Could you please tell me which horses of the arab breed that are inbred that close. Since I am arab breeder and lover I would like to know.
karen

griff · Postby **griff** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:33 am

Raffles

Seems strange an arab breeder does not know that

griff

karenkarenn · Postby **karenkarenn** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:58 am

Griff My mare has raffles
Let me look it up
Strange that you can only produce ONE YES I SAID ONE EXample. GRIFF

Lucy · Postby **Lucy** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:15 am

Here's a good example:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/asil+aurora

Lucy · Postby **Lucy** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:17 am

And another:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/asil+aristocrat

karenkarenn · Postby **karenkarenn** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:36 am

Lucy
have you put in stormy anna yet?
Karen

karenkarenn · Postby **karenkarenn** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:40 am

Its also interesting that you can take time to look up the arabs but nothing with Quarters and thoroughbreds and any other breeds that werent mentioned. Im sick to my stomach that some people need to generalize a breed with out looking at other breeds.
Yes there are inbreeding all over the place, its rather discusting to point fingers at one breed.
This will be my last post on this forum. I see no reason why I should sit and waste time for idiocy and ignorance.

Lucy · Postby **Lucy** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:04 am

Arabians were what was asked for, but here is a Thoroughbred example:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/high+time

As the horses mentioned were quite successful, I fail to see how pointing out their breeding can be an insult.

Clearly this sort of inbreeding has worked when done carefully, which I believe is what Roger & Lisann were trying to point out.

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:10 pm

Rpger the title of this thread ANOTHER TREAD ON INBREEDING caught my eye. Does this mean that you are attempting to walk over the concept of inbreeding like Louis' thread on the racing board? :wink:

Or as I suspect, you are like me, and you can't spell. :lol:

Roger · Postby **Roger** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:23 pm

Thanks for pointing that out, I'm not know for my ability to write, type, or punctuate. :lol:

griff · Postby **griff** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:08 pm

Karen

What are the names of some of thenArabs you have bred??

griff

Roger · Postby **Roger** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:20 am

griff wrote:Karen

What are the names of some of thenArabs you have bred??

griff

I might be taking your post wrong, but I don't think that one has to be big time anything to have a real love of their breed. I love the study and the hands on, the conversations and such, but I am not big time. If I've taken you post wrong, I'm sorry.