nick ratings

tammysinnett · Postby **tammysinnett** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:13 am

I am always trying to learn....a gentleman told me that if I took my broodmare and did a nick with my stallions sire then deducted one---ex if came up A+ it would be an A ... this was a inexpensive way to get a nick report since his sires is free??? I really can't afford to do the real way so can anyone tell me if they believe this?? Or maybe you can tell me a system that would give me a close rating.. I am curious bout the way we have been breeding.

docjocoy · Postby **docjocoy** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:24 am

I think the best way to get a nick from either True Nicks or Enicks for a stallion that is not "free" is to find a stallion that is supported on their site that is from the same sireline as your stallion. Most of the time those nicks, unless they are from a very established stallion, are for the line, not the sire. So if your stallion is from the Mr. Prospector line, or the Storm Cat line, or the Blushing Groom line, etc., find one on the site and plug him into the hypo with your broodmare. It's not perfect but can certainly give you an idea of the nick. If you can find a sire that is by your sire's sire all the better.

Tappiano · Postby **Tappiano** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:33 am

I think a lot of the studs on the thoroughbred times's stud register have links to free nick reports.

tammysinnett · Postby **tammysinnett** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:42 am

The boy I have sire is Mr.Greeley....but none of Mr.Greeleys sons share the same dam as my boys dam ....how does this affect my results or am I getting confused all together..

docjocoy · Postby **docjocoy** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:55 am

tammysinnett wrote:The boy I have sire is Mr.Greeley....but none of Mr.Greeleys sons share the same dam as my boys dam ....how does this affect my results or am I getting confused all together..

Neither True Nicks nor Enicks pays any attention to the dam. Their systems are sireline only.

tammysinnett · Postby **tammysinnett** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:03 am

Ok thankyou....the more I thought the more I was confused... :shock:

jrgators · Postby **jrgators** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:25 pm

I would do both an enick and a true nick report.

I've done them and often times they agree, but they will absolutely disagree too. I've had an A+ on enick be a C on trunick. So I prefer both.

Good luck to you,
Theo

brogers · Postby **brogers** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:46 pm

Here is a complete list of all the stallions that are subscribed to TrueNicks for you to use.

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truenick ... tical.aspx

mikec · Postby **mikec** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:07 pm

And once you get either of those be sure to look at G1 goldmine. I like to think the G1 goldmine confirms what I suspect all along in terms of " positioning " in a pedigree.

docjocoy · Postby **docjocoy** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:30 pm

mikec wrote:And once you get either of those be sure to look at G1 goldmine. I like to think the G1 goldmine confirms what I suspect all along in terms of " positioning " in a pedigree.

Although I'm not sure Goldmine has any of the free services that enicks or true nicks have, the Pedigree Match feature is nice in that it does incorporate the broodmare into the equation.

jrgators · Postby **jrgators** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:45 pm

YES, forgot about the G1 goldmine too. It's great, and they also have a free deal with goldmine, but it does the G2 and G3 guys, but it's still very good!

Too, some of the bigger farms will let you access their stallions, and you can get an idea of what you'd be getting into with them that way.

Theo

Rahy85 · Postby **Rahy85** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:24 pm

A comparison of TrueNicks and ENicks:

http://www.thoroughbredreview.com/nickingcomparison.htm