Chantal sutherland in trouble
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It was the gate crew who gave her the whip, but I think it is more a courtesy than they are expected to have spare equipment. Why would a jockey keep the wrong whips in the room? You can't used the old ones anymore and that has been all over the paper, news, etc in Canada. People who don't know what Woodbine is or who Rachel is know there are new whip rules. It has been heavily publicized for weeks. It was an irresponsible move. She said she didn't want to get days. She just served days recently for blowing over. Get it together!
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whip
Borel is an idiot.
Sutherland made a mistake.
But I do believe that the whip, misused and overused, causes more new and potential fans to leave racing than any other single thing.
Someone said, "People who love horses do not beat them with hard leather whips while the horse is trying to do what it has been trained to do". Not too far wrong.
Can you imagine that happening at a dog show?
Sutherland made a mistake.
But I do believe that the whip, misused and overused, causes more new and potential fans to leave racing than any other single thing.
Someone said, "People who love horses do not beat them with hard leather whips while the horse is trying to do what it has been trained to do". Not too far wrong.
Can you imagine that happening at a dog show?
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tbrace wrote:But I do believe that the whip, misused and overused, causes more new and potential fans to leave racing than any other single thing.
Someone said, "People who love horses do not beat them with hard leather whips while the horse is trying to do what it has been trained to do". Not too far wrong.
Can you imagine that happening at a dog show?
I must agree and I couldn't hit hard enough to kill a fly.
Rachel's second last win, had me wince every time she was hit. Imagine how a newcomer to the sport feels watching that.
Karen, Chantal rides 5 or 6 per day five days a week at Woodbine. She is the second leading rider. She has NO excuse to "grab" the wrong whip. It was the second race of the first day they were mandatory. Everyone was looking. Other riders, outrider, and gate crew noticed. While I am amazed the clerk of scales or someone didn't notice before she got on the horse, it is still her responsibility and the owner/trainer/breeder lost a win on a filly and over $40,000 in earnings. When one needs a "tack" change you ask the outrider to radio the stewards and return to the paddock or have a whip brought. You don't just ride illegally and hope the rest of the world doesn't want the $40,000 you are handing them.
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You know, some horses actually stop running when they are hit, absolutely quit. Other horses you see wringing their tail with every lick, some get off balance trying to get away from the whip, blowing their momentum not to mention a straight path. Any half decent trainer would know how one of their horses reacts to the whip, and tell the jockey NOT to use it, yet I swear I see this sort of thing regularly. Whips may help some horses in paying attention or speeding up, but there's some that it just doesn't work and it only makes them worse.
Watch QH racing sometimes, and to me the jockeys look like turbo-windmills, they are going non-stop with the whip. It's usually such a short race, they have to practically whip them in the starting gate. (Please no offense intended to QH owners/riders/trainers. It just seems to be the nature of that type of racing).
And the very worst to me is harness racing. I can't watch it, just can't watch it. The drivers have those long buggy whips, and to me it looks like they are hitting the horse all up their necks and heads. The driver literally leans out to the side and honestly it looks like they are just whailing the snot out of the horse. I've never seen one of whips they actually use, but visually it's just disturbing to me.
Watch QH racing sometimes, and to me the jockeys look like turbo-windmills, they are going non-stop with the whip. It's usually such a short race, they have to practically whip them in the starting gate. (Please no offense intended to QH owners/riders/trainers. It just seems to be the nature of that type of racing).
And the very worst to me is harness racing. I can't watch it, just can't watch it. The drivers have those long buggy whips, and to me it looks like they are hitting the horse all up their necks and heads. The driver literally leans out to the side and honestly it looks like they are just whailing the snot out of the horse. I've never seen one of whips they actually use, but visually it's just disturbing to me.
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There is another racetrack 'professional' involved here that gets no mention from any of you? Am I so out of date that the 'valet' is no longer a functionary of the jockey's dressing room?
Doesn't a jockey's valet put together the silks, goggles, helmet, safety vest, boots, etc. - in other words the equipment (save the saddle, saddle cloth, bit, bridle, girth and - if chosen, the blinkers - which come from the trainer) for each jockey's race and have those clean, sorted out by race and ready to go prior to the races. It seems to me that the whip would be an important part of a jockey's 'quip' and it falls to their valet to have the appropriate one ready with the other equipment required for any given race.
While I don't disagree that Chantal should have known better and have taken care to make sure she had the right sort of whip - without one on hand where is she going to get it? The gate crew is not in the busines of re-equipping jockeys who arrive there ill prepared to do their job. The owner is being unnecessarily and ridiculously burdened by a mistake that is squarely the responsibility of the jockey and the jockey's valet alone.
Doesn't a jockey's valet put together the silks, goggles, helmet, safety vest, boots, etc. - in other words the equipment (save the saddle, saddle cloth, bit, bridle, girth and - if chosen, the blinkers - which come from the trainer) for each jockey's race and have those clean, sorted out by race and ready to go prior to the races. It seems to me that the whip would be an important part of a jockey's 'quip' and it falls to their valet to have the appropriate one ready with the other equipment required for any given race.
While I don't disagree that Chantal should have known better and have taken care to make sure she had the right sort of whip - without one on hand where is she going to get it? The gate crew is not in the busines of re-equipping jockeys who arrive there ill prepared to do their job. The owner is being unnecessarily and ridiculously burdened by a mistake that is squarely the responsibility of the jockey and the jockey's valet alone.