Free breedings to Quest for Gold

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Sun May 01, 2011 7:46 pm

Free breedings to Quest for Gold are being offered to a limited amount of select mares in 2011. This is being offered to mare owners to get some nice quality foals on the ground.

Quest for Gold is the only palomino son of Argo's Quest standing at stud. Quest is out of Gavin's Sweetie (Deposit Ticket). Quest is JC registered. He is going nicely under saddle and has attended a few schooling shows.

Quest is located in China, MI 48054. More information can be obtained from his owner at [email protected].

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HeadlessHorseman · Postby **HeadlessHorseman** » Tue May 03, 2011 7:31 pm

Neato.....

I hope you get a bunch of foals on the ground next year!!!

HH

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Wed May 04, 2011 7:51 pm

Oh hes not mine....and I hope I don't get a bunch of foals :lol:

He belongs to a friend of mine. He is only 4 miles down the road though. Quest's owner sold all of her broodmares. I only have 2 mares, so hoping for only 2 foals

But one mare is an Oldenburg and will be bred to Redwine. And I am not 100% sure what I am doing with my TB mare.

HeadlessHorseman · Postby **HeadlessHorseman** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:16 pm

......Well if he's only 4 miles down the road...and he's FREE....and he belongs to your friend.....I see your mare and him having a date in the future..

HH

erhrdt3 · Postby **erhrdt3** » Fri May 06, 2011 5:56 pm

Let's get some COLOR on the track!!!

There are getting to be so many specially colored TB's out there, there has got to be at least a couple out there that can RUN!

This fella is gorgeous. I'd like to see him bred to a good racing mare and see what happens.

All we have on the track are bays, browns, dark browns, and Jorge's greys, which is OK, but can you imagine seeing a fella like this golden boy racing?!

Just a thought. :lol:

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Fri May 06, 2011 7:20 pm

Yes maybe it will encourage some mare owners to breed to him for racing. Unfortunately they shut the track down here. Not an excellent racing state at all. It seems like it is getting pretty hard to find a tb in MI, and the canter website for MI is pretty empty.

erhrdt3 · Postby **erhrdt3** » Thu May 12, 2011 4:57 pm

You know, I don't think its totally out of the question for a gold race horse. This gorgeous palomino stallion has both Northern Dancer and Mr. P. in his pedigree and if you bred him to a very good chestnut mare that did great on the track, just for the hell of it, to see what happens, I say,

Why Not?

Hey, that could be the horses name too....Why Not

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:42 am

erhrdt3 wrote:You know, I don't think its totally out of the question for a gold race horse. This gorgeous palomino stallion has both Northern Dancer and Mr. P. in his pedigree and if you bred him to a very good chestnut mare that did great on the track, just for the hell of it, to see what happens, I say,

Why Not?

Hey, that could be the horses name too....Why Not

Well, erhrdt, I have a chestnut mare or two I could sell you so you could find out "why not".

The brutally prohibitive cost of getting a horse to a race would intimidate most people into investing it only into a totally race bred horse. But if you have, say, $25-30K to throw at this, I suggest you be the pioneer and give it a whirl.

erhrdt3 · Postby **erhrdt3** » Fri May 13, 2011 6:31 am

Well actually they would have to be very good race mares that are of the chestnut color.

There are so many of TB's being bred just to be palomino, buckskin, etc. that there is going to eventually be an overload of them.

So again, that is why I thought, why not give it a try? If there is a good pedigree, proven race record, etc. the palomino would have just as good a chance as some of the others being bred just for the reason of breeding them, and they are bay, brown, chestnut, etc. It would cost just as much to put them through training as it would a horse of a different color..

Again, only way would be if it is a proven great/very good chestnut mare, and in most of the palomino's I've seen there are some decent pedigrees.

We know how much it costs to put them through training, we have two in training right now.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Fri May 13, 2011 9:21 am

Ah. I contend that, especially in the current economic conditions, someone who has the kind of mare you describe would set his or her sights quite a lot higher for a mate for the mare than a horse whose got no proven ability anywhere in three or four generations.

docjocoy · Postby **docjocoy** » Fri May 13, 2011 10:12 am

erhrdt3 wrote:Well actually they would have to be very good race mares that are of the chestnut color.

There are so many of TB's being bred just to be palomino, buckskin, etc. that there is going to eventually be an overload of them.

So again, that is why I thought, why not give it a try? If there is a good pedigree, proven race record, etc. the palomino would have just as good a chance as some of the others being bred just for the reason of breeding them, and they are bay, brown, chestnut, etc. It would cost just as much to put them through training as it would a horse of a different color..

Again, only way would be if it is a proven great/very good chestnut mare, and in most of the palomino's I've seen there are some decent pedigrees.

We know how much it costs to put them through training, we have two in training right now.

Since you do know how much it costs to have one in training, it is surprising that you would advocate picking a stallion that was of lesser quality as far as racing ability, just to breed for color. As you state, it costs just as much to put a "colored" horse in training, why would you take a wonderful mare and breed it to a mediocre stallion just to see if you could get a palomino that might be able to run. It is hard enough in the breed to race market to plan a mating for the best possible outcome, with all the crapshoots and luck that entails, so putting the color option out there seems extravagent to me. And I do like a horse with bling. I just wouldn't intentionally breed for one unless my purpose was not necessarilarly to breed for a racehorse.

reedhill · Postby **reedhill** » Fri May 13, 2011 2:46 pm

Since you do know how much it costs to have one in training, it is surprising that you would advocate picking a stallion that was of lesser quality as far as racing ability, just to breed for color. As you state, it costs just as much to put a "colored" horse in training, why would you take a wonderful mare and breed it to a mediocre stallion just to see if you could get a palomino that might be able to run. It is hard enough in the breed to race market to plan a mating for the best possible outcome, with all the crapshoots and luck that entails, so putting the color option out there seems extravagent to me. And I do like a horse with bling. I just wouldn't intentionally breed for one unless my purpose was not necessarilarly to breed for a racehorse

Reed Hill Farm is not afraid to jump in and breed for colored race prospects.
There is nothing to say that the expensive colt bought commercialy is going to stand up to racing any better than what we breed. So many beederes breed for pedigree and leave out conformation and wonder why the break down. When color gets to the track and wins on more than one occasion, more folks will believe. We are very happy to have a private TB owner considering our big white 2011 filly "WHITE MAGNOLIA" (Allamystique x Evolutionary Lady) for purchase for racing. They recently just had a colt run at the WOOD MEMORIAL. Interest is definately there and not everyone is so reluctant and skeptical.

docjocoy · Postby **docjocoy** » Fri May 13, 2011 3:30 pm

reedhill wrote:Since you do know how much it costs to have one in training, it is surprising that you would advocate picking a stallion that was of lesser quality as far as racing ability, just to breed for color. As you state, it costs just as much to put a "colored" horse in training, why would you take a wonderful mare and breed it to a mediocre stallion just to see if you could get a palomino that might be able to run. It is hard enough in the breed to race market to plan a mating for the best possible outcome, with all the crapshoots and luck that entails, so putting the color option out there seems extravagent to me. And I do like a horse with bling. I just wouldn't intentionally breed for one unless my purpose was not necessarilarly to breed for a racehorse

Reed Hill Farm is not afraid to jump in and breed for colored race prospects.
There is nothing to say that the expensive colt bought commercialy is going to stand up to racing any better than what we breed. So many beederes breed for pedigree and leave out conformation and wonder why the break down. When color gets to the track and wins on more than one occasion, more folks will believe. We are very happy to have a private TB owner considering our big white 2011 filly "WHITE MAGNOLIA" (Allamystique x Evolutionary Lady) for purchase for racing. They recently just had a colt run at the WOOD MEMORIAL. Interest is definately there and not everyone is so reluctant and skeptical.

Sorry to ruffle your feathers, Reedhill. I just meant that in these economic times, as Madelyn said, if you have a nice racemare that you want to breed, it is hard to choose a stallion that doesn't have an appopriate race record for that mare. Unless, of course, you have a viable option for the resulting foal, in the event that it doesn't make it as a racehorse, in which case, unfortunately, deep pockets must be involved.
I realize there is interest in the colored racehorses, I wasn't being skeptical per se, just speaking to the economic issues.
All you color breeders work very hard, are super passionate, and I was not putting down colored racehorses.

erhrdt3 · Postby **erhrdt3** » Fri May 13, 2011 5:36 pm

And all I said was ....what if!!!

It would someday be a cool thing, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Pioneering that chestnut stallion sire one of those white ones that did pretty decent on the track? Not sure????

reedhill · Postby **reedhill** » Fri May 13, 2011 6:23 pm

No feathers ruffled :wink:

We just try and let folks know that there is a slowly growing desire to try something different. I've had some pretty interesting conversations with race breeders of solids. FACEBOOK has been a super avenue to network with, I thought it was so silly at first. I hope I'm the one to first breed one that wins a bucket full for someone. Now if I can just get my husband to move to KY I'd be a happy lady.