Lonhro to Darley Kentucky

[Zahrah]

He'll be shuttling this way for the 2012 breeding season. Surprising news yet intriguing to me. Thoughts on how the market will react?

Is he that special down under? I don't follow Aussie racing.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/65401/australian-sire-lonhro-to-shuttle-to-darley

[bdw0617]

He's good. He's the sire of Denman who is one of darley's better Australian horses.

The thing is, at least from what i see, he gets alot of sprinter/middle distance horses, and more than ready already seems to have that american niche covered, not to mentioned city zip.

[wallinga]

The Black flash was an incredibly gifted race horse and has been a surprising hit as a sire down here.

He was a miler, 2000m horse himself (won 11 G1's) and his stock tend to be of the sprinter miler variety, but bear in mind that he has been covering primarily speedy Australian mares, which may influence that.

If you get a chance to see him when he lands over there, go and check him out in the flesh, he is a stunning, stunning horse.

Thes are a few of his best wins, the first is his epic Australian Cup over 2000 metres. (4th is makybe Diva!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwFYMExifw

The second is the George Ryder Stakes which was his next start after the Australian Cup, over 1500 metres, so much acceleration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seL47j4eCe8

I think he'll also prove a bit of an outcross and bring back the great Sir Ivor Sire line over in America.

[kimberley mine]

He'll be shuttling this way for the 2012 breeding season. Surprising news yet intriguing to me. Thoughts on how the market will react?

Is he that special down under? I don't follow Aussie racing.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/65401/australian-sire-lonhro-to-shuttle-to-darley

He's the first horse from the Zabeel line to really hit as a stallion. The jury is still out on Reset and Don Eduardo. He has 31 individual stakes winners and his oldest crop are just now 6-year-olds. Also has 75% runners from foals of racing age.

I suspect that he's going to be a boutique item. A few breeders with the right kind of mare will take a punt on him and the rest will shun him.

Pedigree-wise, he's a NO BRAINER for Night Shift and El Prado mares, and anything Danzig. There's also an emerging pattern in New Zealand of Storm Cat sons clicking well with Sir Tristram (mostly through Tale of the Cat and Van Nistelrooy), returning Somethingroyal through her sons Sir Gaylord and Secretariat.

[Zahrah]

He'll be shuttling this way for the 2012 breeding season. Surprising news yet intriguing to me. Thoughts on how the market will react?

Is he that special down under? I don't follow Aussie racing.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/65401/australian-sire-lonhro-to-shuttle-to-darley

and the rest will shun him.

Pedigree-wise, he's a NO BRAINER for Night Shift and El Prado mares,.

This is why he's intriguing to me... I have a Kitten's Joy filly he sets up really interestingly with.

Anyone know his height? She needs some leg.

[kimberley mine]

16.1

http://www.stallions.com.au/stallions/s ... misphere=1

[ak1]

I like a Louis Quatorze mare with him as well...not that I think any will get into him but both sires seem to like what the other would provide if you look at best runners.

Will be fascinating to see how he crosses with American lines that aren't as prevalent in Australia. He is a gorgeous talented horse!

[kimberley mine]

There is clearly something going on with Lonhro and the Ciboulette line.

Aside from four stakes winners out of 6 foals of racing age from Night Shift mares (3 of whom are graded--25% of his graded winners!), he has another stakes winner and two stakes placed out of Flying Spur mares. Flying Spur is a Danehill son whose second dam is a Sir Ivor son of Fanfreluche, a full sister to Night Shift. Kitten's Joy carries Fanfreluche's son L'Enjelour. Mares by Kitten's Joy, Lode, D'Wildcat, and Azamour would suit.

The things you learn when you go digging....another branch of the Reply family (2nd dam of Ciboulette) goes through Respond, to Cold Reply, to Halory who is the dam of Halory Hunter and Van Nistelrooy. Van Nistelrooy has had much more success in New Zealand than he has in North America, by a long margin. New Zealand is also the country with the greatest saturation of Sir Tristram, through Maurading, Zabeel, Grovesnor, and the old man himself. Van Nistelrooy, Halory Hunter, and mares by the Sunday Silence son Genuine would be worth a shot.

The mare Little Hut also shows up more than once, mostly through the Sir Gaylord son Habitat (Grand Lodge, Barathea) but also, interestingly, through Northfields.

The one other strain that keeps popping up over and over is Fair Trial. I don't know whether that is because Fair Trial is as endemic down under as Nasrullah is in north america, or whether it's a "hit."

[Joltman]

I think this is great news as an infusion of Aussie/NZ blood might help with soundness and distance issues, although this guy seems to be more of a miler sprinter type. Nonetheless he is top class.

I suspect that he's going to be a boutique item. A few breeders with the right kind of mare will take a punt on him and the rest will shun him.

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I think KM is right on here, as only top shelf mares will go to him, and you would want something that is very specific to the mare's abilities, different from what's in the US at the moment. Might see a spurt of interest in turf type sires here in the states.

I would love to breed him (or the Zabeel, Sir Tristram line) to my Defensive Play mare, following the breeding of Melbornne Cup winner Efficient. I don't know that there's any of that blood over here. But he'll be out of my price ballpark.

jm

[Crystal]

Lon won all of his G1 races while not racing on Lasix. I think while medication is such a hot topic it will be a selling point for him. He is new and exotic shuttling to NH from SH but I don't see much commercial value so the mares with a commercial enough page will go to another stallion. Darley of course will support him b/c they dont care if they sell well in the US or not. I wish him luck.

[Barcaldine]

Wallinga,

Are you aware of any temperament issues with LONHRO and/or his progeny? I've seen his sire and grandsire at Cambridge Stud on several occasions and both, especially ST, bordered on diabolical.

I'd be very careful in sending Storm Cat or Roberto line mares to him if he shows any such proclivities.

[Derby2004]

He will be standing for around 30k. And only 85 outside breedings available

[Joltman]

He'll be lucky to get half that - not to say he's not worth it

jm

[Tappiano]

I think they'll have no trouble filling his book. He's a proven sire and there are unproven one's standing for more.

[kimberley mine]

Wallinga,

Are you aware of any temperament issues with LONHRO and/or his progeny? I've seen his sire and grandsire at Cambridge Stud on several occasions and both, especially ST, bordered on diabolical.

FWIW Lonhro is by Octagonal, not Zabeel.