I love the NY Times. I found this article to be thought provoking and well developed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/22/us/at ... emityn.www
Interesting article on Racing, Vets, Drugs, etc.
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Interesting article on Racing, Vets, Drugs, etc.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
It is just dirty buisiness fed by mans greed.
Maybe there will be some serious actions to be taken but I do not think so, as the benovolence groups around the US are against stiffer actions.
The groups are just pro, in pouring out the horses to get an pay out from the horses, no matter the consequences for the horses in the long run.
I write this here for years, horseracing has become an pharmaceutical buisiness in the US and has nothing to do with it,s one time source
Maybe there will be some serious actions to be taken but I do not think so, as the benovolence groups around the US are against stiffer actions.
The groups are just pro, in pouring out the horses to get an pay out from the horses, no matter the consequences for the horses in the long run.
I write this here for years, horseracing has become an pharmaceutical buisiness in the US and has nothing to do with it,s one time source
There is nothing wrong with using medication if it's done in moderation and not abused.
For example, Equipoise is very useful and beneficial steroid, if used properly; however, it was widely abused and is now controlled. And, that is not bad, as it is still available through Vets, and can still be used for off the track horses that will benefit from it.
Hell, I take 5 pills a day and one is a controlled substances, that is often abused; i.e., that's why it's controlled.
griff
For example, Equipoise is very useful and beneficial steroid, if used properly; however, it was widely abused and is now controlled. And, that is not bad, as it is still available through Vets, and can still be used for off the track horses that will benefit from it.
Hell, I take 5 pills a day and one is a controlled substances, that is often abused; i.e., that's why it's controlled.
griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]
don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
I take Indomethacin that can eat a hole in my belly if not taken correctly and long term use can damage my kidneys. And I get periodic blood tests to make sure that is not happening... But this stuff allows me to function and I very much hope I will not loose it. so I only take two 25 mg capsules a day instead of the three that are prescribed in the hope I will keep my kidneys safe and will not loose the use of this shit hot medication.
This is really good stuff. I had shingles a month or so agao and did not know I had it until my wife discovered shingles rash.. The shingles never was a problem..
Later on, I had a root cannel and my son, who was with me, said I went to sleep while the dentist was filing away in the root. Said I snored but would follow directions from my dentist.
This is really good stuff and I think you understand why I am careful not to abuse it.
Medications, horse or human, have there use, but again you don't want the stuff to eat a hole in your stomach
griff
I take Indomethacin that can eat a hole in my belly if not taken correctly and long term use can damage my kidneys. And I get periodic blood tests to make sure that is not happening... But this stuff allows me to function and I very much hope I will not loose it. so I only take two 25 mg capsules a day instead of the three that are prescribed in the hope I will keep my kidneys safe and will not loose the use of this shit hot medication.
This is really good stuff. I had shingles a month or so agao and did not know I had it until my wife discovered shingles rash.. The shingles never was a problem..
Later on, I had a root cannel and my son, who was with me, said I went to sleep while the dentist was filing away in the root. Said I snored but would follow directions from my dentist.
This is really good stuff and I think you understand why I am careful not to abuse it.
Medications, horse or human, have there use, but again you don't want the stuff to eat a hole in your stomach
griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]
I'm training to qualify for the Boston Marathon and have a shelf full of vitamin and mineral supplements that i take every day, did a 10 mile run Saturday and a 6 mile run this morning and i eat lots of aspirin to alleviate chronic pain. I don't expect my race horse to suffer from unnecessary pain either.
Jeff
Jeff
Jeff wrote:I'm training to qualify for the Boston Marathon and have a shelf full of vitamin and mineral supplements that i take every day, did a 10 mile run Saturday and a 6 mile run this morning and i eat lots of aspirin to alleviate chronic pain. I don't expect my race horse to suffer from unnecessary pain either.
Jeff
When I am drunk I think I'm an astronaut.
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[quote="dublino"][quote="Jeff"]I'm training to qualify for the Boston Marathon and have a shelf full of vitamin and mineral supplements that i take every day, did a 10 mile run Saturday and a 6 mile run this morning and i eat lots of aspirin to alleviate chronic pain. I don't expect my race horse to suffer from unnecessary pain either.
Jeff[/quote]
When I am drunk I think I'm an astronaut.[/quote]
Does this happen often?
Jeff[/quote]
When I am drunk I think I'm an astronaut.[/quote]
Does this happen often?
Jeff, never made it to Boston but did run and finish the San Antonio marathon, but never again.
I fund that aspirin did not do much for me but ibuprofen got me up ever morning ready to go again.
You can run through the wall with Ibuprofen, and keep going until your knees buckle. Thats why I now have two titanium knees
griff
I fund that aspirin did not do much for me but ibuprofen got me up ever morning ready to go again.
You can run through the wall with Ibuprofen, and keep going until your knees buckle. Thats why I now have two titanium knees
griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]
San Antonio Marathon 
way to go Griff. I've always had good luck with just plain old aspirin. Hear stories of iibupropen being bad for the liver, and since my liver's already busy : 
Best stick to plain old aspirin.
Going up to 10 mile training runs was a big jump in the miles and new aches and pains and rubbed raw places
As a natural sprinter, I find that the longer distance runs really affect my sprint times, and really going to have to get the speed up if I'm ever going to qualify; Interval training!
way to go Griff. I've always had good luck with just plain old aspirin. Hear stories of iibupropen being bad for the liver, and since my liver's already busy : Best stick to plain old aspirin.
Going up to 10 mile training runs was a big jump in the miles and new aches and pains and rubbed raw places
As a natural sprinter, I find that the longer distance runs really affect my sprint times, and really going to have to get the speed up if I'm ever going to qualify; Interval training!
All I know is in my 30+ years in the industry, when the horses got sick or hurt they saw the vet. When I got sick or hurt I just took a pain pill and kept on going. I'm now retired on disability. Should have seen the doctor and taken the correct medications and time off would still be working!
Medications are needed in the industry.
winds
Medications are needed in the industry.
winds
when medications are needed no problem, but racing on medication never, ever. Iam an great follower to the french rules, within seven days prior to any race, medication is prohibited. With severe penalties, and an astute way in, out of racing testing where ever the horse might be.
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