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 Post subject: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:24 pm 
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The Mid-Summer Derby under card is as star studded as the Travers. Six GR I events and a GR II. Below find entries and past performances for all 7 Graded Events. TJ

6th Race. Approx Post 2:23PM STAKES
THE PERSONAL ENSIGN (Grade I) $700,000
"Win and You're In Breeders' Cup Distaff Division" NO SHOW WAGERING
Purse $700,000 (Up to $54,000 NYSBFOA) One Mile And One Furlong
FOR FILLIES AND MARES THREE YEARS OLD AND UPWARD.
1 Flora Dora(L) Ch.f.4 117 Geroux, F Coffee Pot Stables Coffey, Marialice
2 Songbird(L) Dk B/ Br.f.4 123 Smith, M Fox Hill Farm Hollendorfer, Jerry
3 Going for Broke(L) B.f.4 117 Ortiz, Jr., I Waterford Stable Brown, Chad
4 Forever Unbridled(L) B.m.5 123 Rosario, J Fipke, C Stewart, Dallas
5 Eskenformoney(L) Dk B/ Br.m.5 117 Castellano, J StarLadies Racing Pletcher, Todd
Click on Eskenformoney: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

SATURDAY, AUGUST 26, 2017
7th Race. Approx Post 2:59PM STAKES
THE KETEL ONE BALLERINA (Grade I) $500,000
"Win and You're In Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Sprint Division
Purse $500,000 (Up to $50,000 NYSBFOA) Seven Furlongs
FOR FILLIES AND MARES THREE YEARS OLD AND UPWARD.
1 Birdatthewire(L) B.m.5 117 Franco, M Forum Racing Proctor, Thomas Blk-On
2 Curlin's Approval(L) Dk B/ Br.f.4 124 Saez, L Alter, H Alter, Happy
3 Paulassilverlining(L) B.m.5 124 Ortiz, J Juddmonte Farms Brown, Chad
4 By the Moon(L) Dk B/ Br.m.5 119 Maragh, R Jay Em Ess Stable Nevin, Michelle
5 Carina Mia(L) Dk B/ Br.f.4 121 Castellano, J Three Chimneys Farm Brown, Chad
6 Distinta(L) Ch.m.5 121 Velazquez, J Allor, F Pletcher, Todd
7 Highway Star(L) Ch.f.4 121 Arroyo, A Broman Sr., C & M Ubillo, Rodrigo
Click on Distinta: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

8th Race. Approx Post 3:35PM STAKES
THE H. ALLEN JERKENS (Grade I) $500,000
Previously run as The King's Bishop
Purse $500,000 (Up to $50,000 NYSBFOA) Seven Furlongs
FOR THREE YEAR OLDS.
1 Practical Joke(L) B.c.3 121 Rosario, J Klaravich Stables Brown, Chad
2 Takaful(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 117 Ortiz, J Shadwell Stable McLaughlin, Kiaran
3 Tale of Silence(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 117 Franco, M Fipke, C Tagg, Barclay
4 Wild Shot(L) B.c.3 119 Lezcano, J Calumet Farm Arnold, II, George
5 Ann Arbor Eddie(L) Ch.g.3 117 Gutierrez, M Reddam Racing LLC O'Neill, Doug Blk-On
6 Phi Beta Express(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 117 Carmouche, K Cherry, M Gargan, Danny
7 Coal Front(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 121 Velazquez, J LaPenta, R Pletcher, Todd
8 No Dozing(L) B.c.3 117 Castellano, J Lael Stable Delacour, Arnaud
9 American Anthem(L) B.c.3 121 Smith, M WinStar Farm Baffert, Bob
Click on Coal Front: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

9th Race. Approx Post 4:12PM STAKES
THE FOREGO (Grade I) $600,000
"Win and You're In Breeders' Cup Sprint Division"
Purse $600,000 (Up to $52,000 NYSBFOA) Seven Furlongs
FOR THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD.
1 Stallwalkin' Dude(L) B.g.7 118 Bravo, J Jacobson, D Jacobson, David
2 Ross (IRE) Dk B/ Br.h.5 118 Starke, A Stall Domstadt Schiergen, Peter
3 Tom's Ready(L) Dk B/ Br.c.4 118 Hernandez, Jr., B GMB Racing, LLC Stewart, Dallas
4 Divining Rod(L) Dk B/ Br.h.5 118 Castellano, J Lael Stable Delacour, Arnaud
5 Awesome Slew(L) B.c.4 120 Velazquez, J Live Oak Plantation Casse, Mark
6 Mind Your Biscuits(L) Ch.c.4 124 Rosario, J J. Stables LLC Summers, Chad
7 Tommy Macho(L) B.h.5 120 Saez, L Pompa, Jr., P Pletcher, Todd
8 Tale of S'avall(L) Dk B/ Br.c.4 118 Franco, M Fipke, C Tagg, Barclay
9 Very Very Stella(L) B.g.5 118 Hernandez, C Noda-Fernandez, J Noda-Fernandez, Jose
10 Drefong(L) B.c.4 124 Smith, M Baoma Baffert, Bob
Click on Tommy Macho: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

10th Race. Approx Post 4:49PM STAKES
THE SWORD DANCER (Grade I) $1,000,000
"Win and You're In Breeders' Cup Turf Division"
Purse $1,000,000 (Up to $60,000 NYSBFOA) One Mile And One Half (Inner turf)(Rail at 0 Feet)
FOR THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD.
1 Frank Conversation(L) B.c.4 120 Gutierrez, M Reddam Racing LLC O'Neill, Doug
2 Bigger Picture(L) Ch.g.6 124 Ortiz, J Three Diamonds Farm Maker, Michael
3 Sadler's Joy(L) Ch.c.4 120 Leparoux, J Woodslane Farm Albertrani, Thomas
4 Hunter O'Riley(L) B.r.4 120 Geroux, F Shay, S Toner, James
5 Money Multiplier(L) Dk B/ Br.r.5 120 Castellano, J Klaravich Stables Brown, Chad
6 Erupt (IRE) B.h.5 122 Pasquier, S Flaxman Stable Graffard, F H
7 Idaho (IRE)(L1) B.c.4 122 Moore, R Tabor, M O'Brien, Aidan
Click on Frank Conversation: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

11th Race. Approx Post 5:44PM STAKES
THE TRAVERS presented by NYRA Bets
Grade I - $1,250,000
Purse $1,250,000 (Up to $60,000 NYSBFOA) One Mile And One Quarter
FOR THREE YEAR OLDS.
1 Cloud Computing(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 126 Castellano, J Klaravich Stables Brown, Chad
2 Giuseppe the Great(L) B.c.3 126 Gaffalione, T Mossarosa Zito, Nicholas
3 West Coast(L) B.c.3 126 Smith, M West, G & M Baffert, Bob
4 Tapwrit(L) Gr/ro.c.3 126 Ortiz, J LaPenta, R Pletcher, Todd
5 Good Samaritan(L) B.c.3 126 Rosario, J WinStar Farm Mott, William
6 Girvin(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 126 Albarado, R Grady, B Sharp, Joe
7 Always Dreaming(L) Dk B/ Br.c.3 126 Velazquez, J Teresa Viola Racing Stables Pletcher, Todd
8 Lookin At Lee(L) B.c.3 126 Santana, Jr., R L and N Racing LLC Asmussen, Steven
9 McCraken(L) B.c.3 126 Hernandez, Jr., B Whitham Thoroughbreds LLC Wilkes, Ian
10 Irap(L) B.c.3 126 Gutierrez, M Reddam Racing LLC O'Neill, Doug
11 Gunnevera(L) Ch.c.3 126 Zayas, E Margoth Sano, Antonio
12 Fayeq(L) B.c.3 126 Saez, L Shadwell Stable McLaughlin, Kiaran
Click on Irap: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm

12th Race. (C12) Approx Post 6:20PM STAKES
THE WOODFORD RESERVE BALLSTON SPA
Grade II - $400,000
Purse $400,000 (Up to $44,000 NYSBFOA) One Mile And One Sixteenth (Mellon Turf)(Rail at 0 Feet)
FOR FILLIES AND MARES THREE YEARS OLD AND UPWARD.
1 Lady Eli(L) Dk B/ Br.m.5 123 Ortiz, Jr., I Sheep Pond Partners Brown, Chad
2 Roca Rojo (IRE)(L) B.m.5 121 Rosario, J Sheep Pond Partners Brown, Chad
3 Time and Motion(L) B.f.4 121 Velazquez, J Phillips Racing Partnership Toner, James
4 On Leave(L) Gr/ro.f.4 121 Ortiz, J Janney, III, S McGaughey III, Claude
5 Antonoe(L) Dk B/ Br.f.4 123 Castellano, J Juddmonte Farms Brown, Chad
6 Dickinson(L) B.m.5 123 Lopez, P Godolphin Stable McLaughlin, Kiaran
Click on Dickinson: http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/briswatc ... ummary.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:41 pm 
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Wow, only 5 entries in the Personal Ensign?
I'll be rooting for Songbird, my favorite girl! :D

Thanks for posting, TJ!

Edit... and I just noticed Lady Eli in the last race... awesome!! The girls have it going on this year!


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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skeenan wrote:
Wow, only 5 entries in the Personal Ensign?
I'll be rooting for Songbird, my favorite girl! :D

Thanks for posting, TJ!

Hi Skeenan,
Yes, I was disappointed with just 5 entries also....I'll be rooting for her with you:>) TJ


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:08 pm 
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In the Travers, I am picking Cloud Computing, in spite of his most recent effort.
Maybe over MCracken in second.
I would like to see Zito's horse put in a good run ...


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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THE PERSONAL ENSIGN (Grade I)
Songbird
Going For Broke
Forever Unbridled

THE BALLERINA (Grade I)
Carina Mia
Paulassilverlining
Distinta
Curlin's Approval

THE H. ALLEN JERKENS (Grade I)
Takaful
American Anthem
Coal Front
Practical Joke

THE FOREGO (Grade I)
Drefong
Awesome Slew
Tommy Macho
Tale of S'avall

THE SWORD DANCER (Grade I)
Idaho
Erupt
Money Multiplier
Bigger Picture

THE TRAVERS (Grade I)
Tapwrit
Always Dreaming
Girvin
West Coast

THE BALLSTON SPA (Grade II)
Antonoe
Lady Eli
Time and Motion


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:26 pm 
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Personal Ensign:
Songbird
Forever Unbridled
Going For Broke

Ballerina:
By The Moon
Paulassilverlining
Holiday Star
Carina Mia

H. Allen Jerkens:
Practical Joke
Takaful
American Anthem
No Dozing

Forego:
Mind Your Biscuits
Drefong
Stallwalkin' Dude
Tale of S'avall

Sword Dancer:
Money Multiplier
Bigger Picture
Erupt
Idaho

Travers:
Good Samaritan
Cloud Computing
Tapwrit
Girvin

Ballston Spa:
Lady Eli
Antonae
On Leave
Dickinson


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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I'll play Practical Joke in the Jerkens and Drefong over Tom's Ready in the Forego.


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:58 am 
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I'm still hemming and hawing over my final picks (as I am a complete handicapping hack, lol). I know who I like, it's employing some sort of logical betting strategy. That's the part I struggle with... :D

If I may ask the question, to learn something... do you believe Girvin is too outclassed to pull off a solid top 3? And, no one picked Irap, who just won at a close distance and has two high Beyer figures. I am leaning towards both, on paper, anyway. I'll probably go with a safe bet and this kind of bet. I'm sure I'll be wrong, lol... but I'm hoping the trend of inconsistency we've seen all season might pay off.


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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skeenan wrote:
I'm still hemming and hawing over my final picks (as I am a complete handicapping hack, lol). I know who I like, it's employing some sort of logical betting strategy. That's the part I struggle with... :D

If I may ask the question, to learn something... do you believe Girvin is too outclassed to pull off a solid top 3? And, no one picked Irap, who just won at a close distance and has two high Beyer figures. I am leaning towards both, on paper, anyway. I'll probably go with a safe bet and this kind of bet. I'm sure I'll be wrong, lol... but I'm hoping the trend of inconsistency we've seen all season might pay off.

Hi Skeenan,
Concerning Girvin, I wouldn't say he is outclassed since he is one of only 4 GR I winners in the race (Cloud Computing, Tapwrit, Girvin and Always Dreaming) He had foot issues that stopped him in the Derby and since the repairs he's run 2 good races back to back, so he does belong.
Irap had to drop in class to pull off his two wins (both in GR III's), but he's been impressive in those wins and seems to be improving and growing into his large frame...so it's a good time to try GR I company. This is Saratoga so upsets are the norm in big races and your strategy makes sense given the inconsistent trend of this group.
Concerning a good overall betting strategy, my advice is bet a little to win a lot, never bet a lot to win a little...you'll have fun and stay in the game a lot longer:>) TJ
PS...we're all handicapping hacks:>)


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:51 am 
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For better or worse... I'm a penny-ante bettor, I used $0.50 trifectas to cover a lot of possibilities in the few races I wanted to go deep. So even if I lose, I won't be out a lot... :lol:
I bagged the Travers, other than betting Girvin across the board. I like him and hope he pulls it off. I was getting a headache... could go so many ways today!

At any rate, good luck everyone! Looking forward to watching Songbird and the Travers!

Personal Ensign:
Songbird
Forever Unbridled

Ballerina:
Carina Mia

Allen Jerkins:
Coalfront

Travers:
Girvin, Irap

Ballston Spa:
Lady Eli
Antonae/Dickinson


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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Really good contest for the training title playing out between Todd Pletcher and Chad Brown. They both go head to head in a number of races today...Pletcher started the day 1 up on Brown and just beat him in today's first race...so he's 2 up on him. But the battle continues throughout the day with both trainers emptying their barn to try to take over the training lead. They are right back at it in the 2nd, with Todd having the 10 and Chad the 9. TJ


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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Here's the finish for the Personal Ensign:
Forever Unbridled
Songbird
Eskenformoney
Going for Broke


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Bummed to see Songbird lose, but hats off to Forever Unbridled. Nice win!
And way to go, Cree, picking By The Moon!


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Here's the finish for the Ballerina:
By The Moon
Highway Star
Carina Mia
Bird on The Wire

Nice call Cree...exacta and tri!


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 Post subject: Re: Saratoga Saturday
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Here's the finish for the H. Allen Jerkens (Previously named the Kings Bishop, who was trained by the "Chief":>)
Practical Joke
Takaful
American Anthem
Tale of Silence

Well done again, Cree! With this win Chad Brown ties up the trainers battle!


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