Who are some of the best bred horses of all time?

[Keith]

Some of the best bred horses of all time

Chaucer by St. Simon-Canterbury Pilgrim by Tristan
Sir Gallahad III by Teddy-Plucky Liege by Spearmint
Bull Dog by Teddy-Plucky Liege by Spearmint
Secretariat by Bold Ruler-Somethingroyal by Princequillo
A.P. Indy by Seattle Slew-Weekend Surprise by Secretariat
Hyperion by Gainsborough-Selene by Chaucer
Nasrullah by Nearco-Mumtaz Begum by Bleinheim II
Gallant Fox by Sir Gallahad III-Marguerite by Celt
Fighting Fox by Sir Gallahad III-Marguerite by Celt
Nureyev by Northern Dancer-Special by Forli
Kingmambo by Mr. Prospector-Miesque by Nureyev

Just to name a few

Keith

[Mahubah]

Bold Lad and Successor -- Bold Ruler--Misty Morn, by *Princequillo
What a Pleasure, Bold Queen, Bold Princess -- Bold Ruler--Grey Flight, by *Princequillo
War Relic, Speed Boat, War Kilt -- Man o' War--Friars Carse (champ 2yo filly), by Friar Rock
Citation -- Bull Lea--*Hydroplane II, by Hyperion (great English family)
Hyperion -- Gainsborough--Selene, by Chaucer. Hyperion's half sibs were no slouches either, being by Phalaris (*Sickle and *Pharamond II) and Hurry On (Hunter's Moon).

And my vote for the best-bred horse of all time -- *Meddler, by St. Gatien (Derby Stakes) out of Busybody (1000 Guineas and Oaks Stakes), by Petrarch (2000 Guineas and St. Leger Stakes). Busybody, in turn, was out of Spinaway (1000 Guineas and Oaks), by Macaroni (2000 Guineas and Derby) out of Queen Bertha (Oaks), who also produced Wheel of Fortune (1000 Guineas and Oaks).

Of course, you realize that there are any number of royally bred total flops out there.

[Ruffian]

Six Crowns- Secretariat x Chris Evert
Galileo - Sadlers Wells x Urban Sea

All for now- those were just ones that 'lurk' in your head!

[parlo]

Offsprings out of Allez France (by Sea Bird) sired by Seattle Slew and Nureyev

Offsprings out of Dahlia (by Vaguely Noble) sired by Northern Dancer and Lyphard

Offspings out of Time Charter (multiple Gr-I-Winner in GB against male horses; by Saritamer) sired by Sadler's Wells and Shirley Heights

Festa by St. Simon (the ND of the 19th century) out of L'Abesse de Jouarre (Oaks-Winner); highly influencial brood mare in German TB breeding

[Keith]

Capote by Seattle Slew-Too Bald by Bald Eagle
Baldski by Nijinsky II-Too Bald by Bald Eagle
Nijinsky II by Northern Dancer-Flaming Page by Bull Page
On-an-On by Nasrullah-Two Lea by Bull Lea
Rahy by Blushing Groom-Glorious Song by Halo
Hill Prince by Princequillo-Hildene by Bubbling Over
First Landing by Turn-to-Hildene by Bubbling Over
Awesome Again by Deputy Minister-Primal Force by Blushing Groom
Never Bend by Nasrullah-Lalun by Djeddah
Northfields by Northern Dancer-Little Hut by Occupy
Mahmoud by Blenheim II-Mah Mahal by Gainsborough
Natalma by Native Dancer-Almahmoud by Mahmoud
Bold Reason by Hail to Reason-Lalun by Djeddah
Halo by Hail to Reason-Cosmah by Cosmic Bomb
His Majesty by Ribot-Flower Bowl by Alibhai
Graustark by Ribot-Flower Bowl by Alibhai
Chieftain by Bold Ruler-Pocohontas by Roman
Tom Rolfe by Ribot-Pocohontas by Roman
Hero's Honor by Northern Dancer-Glowing Tribute by Graustark

Keith

[Sam]

Of course, you realize that there are any number of royally bred total flops out there.

You mean like ...

Shbakni (0 for 6) and Minden Rose (1 for 4) -- both Mr. Prospector out of Winning Colors

Danzig Colors (3 for 13) -- Danzig out of Winning Colors

Stormin Winnie (unraced -- okay, I'll give this one a break ... but find it amusing that the ONLY foal she has that went unraced was the Storm Cat ) -- Storm Cat out of Winning Colors

Of course, Winning Colors was by Caro (multiple graded winner) out of All Rainbows (multiple stakes winner and half to Chris Evert). All Rainbows, of course, being by Bold Hour (Futurity/Hopeful winner) and out of Miss Carmine (stakes winner) who was by T. V. Lark (stakes winner at 2-5)

[Nessa]

Of course, you realize that there are any number of royally bred total flops out there.

You mean like ...

Shbakni (0 for 6) and Minden Rose (1 for 4) -- both Mr. Prospector out of Winning Colors

Danzig Colors (3 for 13) -- Danzig out of Winning Colors

Stormin Winnie (unraced -- okay, I'll give this one a break ... but find it amusing that the ONLY foal she has that went unraced was the Storm Cat ) -- Storm Cat out of Winning Colors

Of course, Winning Colors was by Caro (multiple graded winner) out of All Rainbows (multiple stakes winner and half to Chris Evert). All Rainbows, of course, being by Bold Hour (Futurity/Hopeful winner) and out of Miss Carmine (stakes winner) who was by T. V. Lark (stakes winner at 2-5)

She and Lady's Secret are a perfect example of mares sent continuously to the wrong stallions, just because they were top stallions. They were bred purely with the sales ring in mind and not with any thought as to a stallion that would work best and produce a runner.

[FOS]

hi guys

What about A.P. INDY by Seattle Slew...1st dam (broodmare of the year) Weekend Surprise by Secretariat...2nd dam Lassie Dear by Buckpasser...3rd dam Gay Missile by Sir Gaylord.

and what about the young stakes-winning son of A.P. Indy...

FULL MANDATE by A.P. Indy...1st dam G1 winner and millionaire Clear Mandate by Deputy Minister...2nd dam G1 winner Dream Date by Sharpen up...3rd dam G1 winner Likely Exchange by Terrible Tiger.

Respectfully

[louis finochio]

Swaps---Khaled--Iron Reward by Beau Pere had many gears when a TB got close to him he had a higher gear and was long gone, Swaps set a few world records one at one mile and one sixteenth.

Bill Shoemaker was his jockey and Misch Tenny trainer, and Rex Ellsworth owner.

Spectacular Bid the gray ghost was another great TB he was by Bold Bidder---Stop on Red, by To Market.

I have a photo of SB that is signed by Bill Shoemaker, both SB and Shoe were super class. Thanks for the memories.

[Keith]

Storm Flag Flying by Storm Cat-My Flag by Easy Goer
Our Emblem by Mr. Prospector-Personal Ensign by Private Account
Gone West by Mr. Prospector-Secrettame by Secretariat
Alydar by Raise a Native-Sweet Tooth by On-an-On
Exclusive Native by Raise a Native-Exclusive by Shut Out
Exclusive Dancer by Native Dancer-Exclusive by Shut Out
Unbridled by Fappiano-Gana Facil by Le Fabuleux
Empire Maker by Unbridled-Toussaud by El Gran Senor
Honest Lady by Seattle Slew-Toussaud by El Gran Senor
Forestry by Storm Cat-Shared Interest by Pleasant Colony
Majestic Prince by Raise a Native-Gay Hostess by Royal Charger
Geiger Counter by Mr. Prospector-Thong by Nantallah
Pine Bluff by Danzig-Rowdy Angel by Halo
Angel Fever by Danzig-Rowdy Angel by Halo
Fusaichi Pegasus by Mr. Prospector-Angel Fever by Danzig
Buckfinder by Buckpasser-Shenanigans by Native Dancer
Shenanigans by Native Dancer-Bold Irish by Fighting Fox
Maplejinsky by Nijinsky II-Gold Beauty by Mr. Prospector
Sky Beauty by Blushing Groom-Maplejinsky by Nijinsky II
War Chant by Danzig-Hollywood Wildcat by Kris S.

Keith

[devinganwich]

He's Tops by Seattle Slew- She's A Talent by Mr. Prospector

[Sam]

She and Lady's Secret are a perfect example of mares sent continuously to the wrong stallions, just because they were top stallions. They were bred purely with the sales ring in mind and not with any thought as to a stallion that would work best and produce a runner.

Okay, in Lady's Secret's defense, she was a Secretariat mare ... she SHOULD have hit with at least one of the "names" she was bred to and it's weird that she didn't.

As it is, hasn't the General Meeting been her best so far?

edit

Scratch that .. the GM hasn't started yet. Her best was one of the prospectors that went to Japan.

... and I'm going to hunt down and skin the person who jacked Lady's Secret's entry last month.

[griff]

Thoughts on Gone West for this froup

griff

[Keith]

Iron Liege by Bull Lea-Iron Maiden by War Admiral
Spendthrift by Australian-Aerolite by Lexington
Clyde Van Dusen by Man o War-Uncle's Lassie by Uncle -Gelding
Betty Derr by Sir Gallahad III-Uncle's Lassie by Uncle
Pharos by Phalaris-Scapa Flow by Chaucer
Persimmon by St. Simon-Perdita by Hampton
Diamond Jubilee by St. Simon-Perdita by Hampton
Florizel II by St. Simon-Perdita by Hampton
Sickle by Phalaris-Selene by Chaucer
Searching by War Admiral Big Hurry by Black Toney
Businesslike by Blue Larkspur-La Troienne by Teddy
Big Event by Blue Larkspur-La Troienne by Teddy
Belle of Troy by Blue Larkspur-La Troienne by Teddy
Bee Ann Mac by Blue Larkspur-La Troienne by Teddy
Bimelech by Black Toney-La Troienne by Teddy
Busanda by War Admiral-Businesslike by Blue Larkspur
But Why Not by Blue Larkspur-Be Like Mom by Sickle
Be Like Mom by Sickle-Black Helen by Black Toney
Hula Hula by Polynesian-Black Helen by Black Toney
Blue Eyed Momo by War Admiral-Big Event by Blue Larkspur
Blackball by Shut Out-Big Event by Blue Larkspur
Cohoes by Mahmoud-Belle of Troy by Blue Larkspur
Mr. Busher by War Admiral-Baby League by Bubbling Over
Striking by War Admiral-Baby League by Bubbling Over
Busher by War Admiral-Baby League by Bubbling Over
Glamour by Nasrullah-Striking by War Admiral
Black Helen by Black Toney-La Troienne by Teddy
Baby League by Bubbling Over-La Troienne by Teddy

To name a few

Keith

[Camish]

You can't forget about Phar Lap!!