Where is Dubai Excellence and who is this stallion?

[Flight]

We have a very interesting situation in Western Australia at the moment.

Dubai Excellence was supposed to have arrived over there in February however the horse that arrived appears not to be Dubai Excellence. I'm not even sure if they know which stallion they have at their farm.

And where is Dubai Excellence?

http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin ... entity.txt

[austique]

Geez! That would be enough to make you climb a water tower with an AK-47. Do they tattoo in England or just rely on the microchips? OSU was running a study on the microchipping and found that the chips could shift significantly and be undetectable, but if the DNA tests came back wrong thats not the case here. $20 Darley is going nuts trying to figure out where the real one is. With as many horses as they have, its possible they just swapped the horses.

[Heidilady]

Thanks austique, I hated to ask a completely obvious question like that but yeah do they not tattoo the lips in England? Simple matter to figure out which horse this is and where the heck the stallion went.

If all it is is that someone sent the wrong horse over, what a moron. If he was stolen, that's a moron that needs to be serving time. Either way, someone's an idiot.

[austique]

It seems that the real horse is bay without markings and of course so is the imposter who early DNA tests suggest is by the same sire.

[Marli]

More on this story-

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16262270-421,00.html

Ummm.... I'd say it sounds like there's been some real incompetency by those handling this stallion....

Bigger Question - WHO is the stallion??

[Flight]

Some apparent movement in this little saga.

Stallion in WA is definitely not Dubai Excellence. As expected. But Darley is not to blame given that they can possibly blame it on an agistment farm.

And where is Dubai Exellence?

How long does it take to check records even if hand written?

http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin ... ussies.txt

[Ruffian]

They need to find out who the horse is and follow up his records- they just better be hoping he hasnt been GELDED... What an absolute NIGHTMARE!

[louis finochio]

I have researched the eyes of TB for many years than I can remember.

There is no 2 TB with the same charactistics patterns in their eyes.
When you get a passport and they take a photo of your eyes, there is no 2 persons that have the same eye patterns.

If this is done with TB there would never be an imposter or ringer to take advantage of the sting game.

[austique]

The horse in AUS is Samood a half brother to Cape Cross by Caerleon. Still no word on were Dubai Excellence is which is strange because if they know who the mystery stallion is then wouldn't it be possible to track the movements of "Samood" and find Dubai Excellence . The horses were mixed up in England. I say we take up a collection to help improve Darley's record keeping system

[austique]

Dubai Excellence is believed to be in the Ukraine. At least that is where Samood is supposed to be; however, testing is slowed as the Ukraine has no Jockey Club and are overseen by the Russian studbook and that guy is on vacation. Think Darley will get away with an "Oops! My bad." or there will be some monetary reckoning coming their way?

[llbean]

The irony is that Samood is actually a nicer stallion prospect than Dubai Excellence with a higher Genetic Strengh Value and a half brother in Cape Cross who's an even better stallion than Dubai Excellence's half-brother Dubai Millenium.

And don't you go telling me Dubai Excellence is better on account his conformation!!

-llbean

[Lucy]

So, if 'Samood' was sold to the Ukraine in January....was he used for breeding this spring? Some Ukranian mare owners could be in for a lil' surprise.

[Flight]

Good detective work austique!

I hope that the Ukrainians haven't taken a shine to their "Samood" though. This is already a nightmare for all involved but could you imagine how long this would take if it had to go through legal channels once test results are confirmed.

I tend to agree llbean. The Nijinsky boys have done OK down here even though most were not the best performed racehorses. Caerleons's boy, Bletchley Park, is doing very nicely in Western Australia as well. And the female family is far from shabby.

I don't know why they don't stand him anyway. He would no doubt have been through a stallion "preparation" and would be looking forward to meeting a mare or two. Our season starts next Wednesday.

It's not Samood's fault he is in the wrong hemisphere and given that this is already a major stuff up why not just keep adding to the confusion and let the stallion do his job.

[StrawberryFelidos]

Or, here's a creepy thought- I'm assuming Samood was sold as a Ukranian stallion prospect, but could he have been sold under different terms?To some rich guy as a hunter-jumper? I haven't read anywhere yet where it was said that Samood was sold as a stallion prospect, just that he was sold. What was he supposed to be doing, eh?

BloodHorse: It is also understood that neither Weatherbys nor the Russian stud book have formal records of the horse thought to be Samood standing as a stallion in Ukraine.

Okay... so what exactly was "Samood" doing over there?
All I can say is this- depending on what his fate was supposed to be, Samood might be a very lucky guy.
Ukranian: "Hmm, this Samood doesn't look to be a very good stud, after all. Let's sell him at that cheap sale..."

[StrawberryFelidos]

By the way, is the picture of "Dubai Excellence" on his pedigree page actually Dubai Excellence, or Samood, identity thief and wonder horse extreme? It looks like a stud book photo.