Polytrack Stallions
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Polytrack Stallions
What are people's opinions on which stallions will do well on the polytrack? Should turf stallions do well on it as I have been told by a few people.
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I know there was an article in the Blood Horse after the 1st meet with polytrack ended at Turway,with the sires who had won the most races. If you go to bloodhorse.com and search "polytrack sires" I can't find that particular article, but it does reference others that list those that are doing well/are expected to do well on the polytrack.
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geowarrior
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Thanks for the mention.... I think, personally, that multi-surface talent may be a factor. Rocking Trick was talented on turf AND dirt, short AND long.
Here is the article mentioned above
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editoria ... gi?id=6153
I have a nice 2 year old by Skip Away that was too gangly to run at 2 and I might put him in the F-T February HOA as a racing prospect. Hopefully trainers at that sale will have read that article.
Since at least 50% of the genetic material in the foal comes from the mare I'm sure there are dirt sires out there who have sired AWT and turf horses. But also, since polytrack was developed in Europe as a training surface for grass horses, one might surmise that it is probably closer to turf, as a running surface, than it is to dirt. Hence all the longshot winners last winter at Turfway Park.
Here is the article mentioned above
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editoria ... gi?id=6153
I have a nice 2 year old by Skip Away that was too gangly to run at 2 and I might put him in the F-T February HOA as a racing prospect. Hopefully trainers at that sale will have read that article.
Since at least 50% of the genetic material in the foal comes from the mare I'm sure there are dirt sires out there who have sired AWT and turf horses. But also, since polytrack was developed in Europe as a training surface for grass horses, one might surmise that it is probably closer to turf, as a running surface, than it is to dirt. Hence all the longshot winners last winter at Turfway Park.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
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geowarrior
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You're welcome, Madelyn.
I agree that horses that have been successful on both dirt and turf like Rocking Trick are likely prospects. But some rather unlikely dirt horses can sire turf (and hence maybe polytrack) winners. I have a share in a horse called Citi Smoke by well known dirt sprinter Smoke Glacken. Smoke Glacken's progeny are far more successful on dirt than turf. However, after several promising but ultimately unsuccessful attempts at 6f on the dirt, Citi Smoke finally broke his maiden at a mile on the turf. I think that in this case one must look to the dam's side. Citi Smoke's dam sire is Citidancer. Something else to consider when looking for polytrack success.
I agree that horses that have been successful on both dirt and turf like Rocking Trick are likely prospects. But some rather unlikely dirt horses can sire turf (and hence maybe polytrack) winners. I have a share in a horse called Citi Smoke by well known dirt sprinter Smoke Glacken. Smoke Glacken's progeny are far more successful on dirt than turf. However, after several promising but ultimately unsuccessful attempts at 6f on the dirt, Citi Smoke finally broke his maiden at a mile on the turf. I think that in this case one must look to the dam's side. Citi Smoke's dam sire is Citidancer. Something else to consider when looking for polytrack success.
Experiences from Europe, the longer the dry spells, the heavier it becomes, rain on day itself make it fast, because it sticks together.
So when it is dry a horse which like soft turf tracks will appreciate it very much.
When it is fast, a horse that likes firm turf will stand up.
About dirt I don,t know a tiny bit so fill in your orders.
Madelyn what about the skip away?????
So when it is dry a horse which like soft turf tracks will appreciate it very much.
When it is fast, a horse that likes firm turf will stand up.
About dirt I don,t know a tiny bit so fill in your orders.
Madelyn what about the skip away?????
Polytrack Sires
Dynaformer and El Prado should be very good polytrack sires. Street Cry may be a good polytrack sire. Medaglia D'Oro could also become a good polytrack sire. Skip Away has done well so far but time will tell.
Keith
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I really like all the Danzig line stallions on the Polytrack. (Military, Brahms, Boundary, Elnadim, Exchange Rate, etc...)
In also think El Prado and his sons could excel as Polytrack sires.
Most of the Northern Dancer line stallions appear to be running ok on it.
Sons of Fappiano also have strong percentages.
My stats were compiled off of Turfway Park and are also based on observations at Keeneland.
In also think El Prado and his sons could excel as Polytrack sires.
Most of the Northern Dancer line stallions appear to be running ok on it.
Sons of Fappiano also have strong percentages.
My stats were compiled off of Turfway Park and are also based on observations at Keeneland.
Des wrote:I knew it wouldn't be long before this subject came up about Poly Track Sires. i made reference to it in one of my earlier post and YES Madelyn did mention that Rocking Trick will be the first recognized Polytrack Sire........ Lets wish him lots of mares and wins in the future...Go Rocking Trick
Gosh thanks.. I don't believe he will be the "first" or alone on a pedestal or anything, but I DO believe his offspring have potential to make a lot of noise.So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....