Site police! re: Wild Fit
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sunday_silence
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Site police! re: Wild Fit
Somebody needs to lock her page to editing. There's some crazy stuff going on. She may or may not be dead, but it's being changed constantly.
From what I understand, they can't lock anything but pedigree and name. The additional comments fields can't be locked down. I wish they could. I gave up on updating horses because some jackass won't leave the damn things alone. I'd update a horse and 3 hours later some dipshit had deleted/rewritten all the information. Change it back to the proper set up and the idiot screws it up again 12 hours later. I've always written it like Lucy asked me to:
At 3:
Won Kentucky Derby (G1)
2nd Preakness S. (G1)
not
"At 3 WON Kentucky Derby (G1, CRH, 10f); 2ND Preakness Stakes (G1, PIM, 9.5f) "
SPELL OUT THE DATE OF BIRTH
4/3/02 may be April 3rd to Americans, but it's March 4th to everyone else.
DO NOT PUT "as of" IN THE EARNINGS FIELD Update dates are "other factual information", put them down there where it belongs. People have been asking Miles to put a character limit on that effin' thing for years now.
At 3:
Won Kentucky Derby (G1)
2nd Preakness S. (G1)
not
"At 3 WON Kentucky Derby (G1, CRH, 10f); 2ND Preakness Stakes (G1, PIM, 9.5f) "
SPELL OUT THE DATE OF BIRTH
4/3/02 may be April 3rd to Americans, but it's March 4th to everyone else.
DO NOT PUT "as of" IN THE EARNINGS FIELD
Update dates are "other factual information", put them down there where it belongs. People have been asking Miles to put a character limit on that effin' thing for years now.-
geowarrior
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I've not done much editing, but I had no idea there were preferred formats.
It would be kind of nice to have any preferred formats in a central place so that us neophytes could look them up and be spared the wrath of Sam when we do things wrong.
Incidentally, I like to see distances and surfaces included in the info, I've often been a little frustrated when I checked the info and found races but not distance and surface.
It would be kind of nice to have any preferred formats in a central place so that us neophytes could look them up and be spared the wrath of Sam when we do things wrong.
Incidentally, I like to see distances and surfaces included in the info, I've often been a little frustrated when I checked the info and found races but not distance and surface.
geowarrior wrote:I've not done much editing, but I had no idea there were preferred formats.
I just do what Lucy tells me to do (and why the hell do I keep trying to write "Lucky"?)
geowarrior wrote:It would be kind of nice to have any preferred formats in a central place so that us neophytes could look them up and be spared the wrath of Sam when we do things wrong.
Oh, come on. I'm not that bad.
I doubt it would make a difference. There's someone who doesn't give a damn in there screwing things up. They're going to do things and redo things their way come hell or high water and the rest of us can go to hell.
I don't bother anymore. I stick to the Kissin Krises and the rest of them can bite my left ass cheek. I'm not going to stress over it anymore.
geowarrior wrote:Incidentally, I like to see distances and surfaces included in the info, I've often been a little frustrated when I checked the info and found races but not distance and surface.
That's what the stakes database is for.
Arrow over reports, then click on Stakes races. That should bring up all the stakes the horse has placed in and the distances, times, 1st/2nd/3rd place finishers.
Kissin Kris Stakes Database
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geowarrior
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geowarrior wrote:You are right about people screwing around inventing horses not yet born etc. That is irritating.
Oh you missed all the fun. There used to be someone in Turkey taking all those Turkish studs and dropping in about 100 phantoms a month for horses born in 2008, 2009, etc. Three generations of phantoms breeding phantoms starting with River Special and Mountain Cat and a couple of Turk mares named Kazak Nuru and ... I'm blanking on the other mare. Phantom foals then crossing those foals together.
There's no harm in having the track/distance....I generally leave that alone if someone bothers to put it in. But personally, if I'm updating from the APR, I'm not going to go looking that stuff up - and if the character limit starts coming into play, that stuff's the first to go.
The 'preferred format' reflects two things - other than my inner nitpicky ex-litmag editor - that this site is very much a 'global village', so dates should be spelled out and race wins grouped by age, not year. The other is that the pages need to be readable! 
Sloppy formatting turns a horse's page into a jumbled paragraph of mush, especially for subscribers.
I've never been able to get Miles to post guidelines, so none of this is cast in stone, and no one will beat you if you make a mistake. But if you look at the listings in the APR, or the stakes results pages in the back of the Blood-Horse, that's what we're going for. 
Meantime, I'll try and keep a closer eye on Wild Fit.
The 'preferred format' reflects two things - other than my inner nitpicky ex-litmag editor
- that this site is very much a 'global village', so dates should be spelled out and race wins grouped by age, not year. The other is that the pages need to be readable! Sloppy formatting turns a horse's page into a jumbled paragraph of mush, especially for subscribers.
I've never been able to get Miles to post guidelines, so none of this is cast in stone, and no one will beat you if you make a mistake.
But if you look at the listings in the APR, or the stakes results pages in the back of the Blood-Horse, that's what we're going for.
Meantime, I'll try and keep a closer eye on Wild Fit.
That is one thing that really gets my goat.DO NOT PUT "as of" IN THE EARNINGS FIELD Update dates are "other factual information", put them down there where it belongs. People have been asking Miles to put a character limit on that effin' thing for years now.
Several weeks ago I was in a pissing match with someone on this issue with Mr. Greeleys offspring. I would take out the "As of" in the earnings cell and put a Update in the comments section. The next day, or no more than a few days later, someone changed it back. I even put a notice in the comments section that the "As of" date did not belong in the earnings cell. I finally gave up and am letting it be for now.
Another issue on the earnings cell is when I come see entries that go: $100,000 & 500,000FF & 5,000,000 pesos! Is there a correct procedure for cleaning up those messes?
My second question is regarding entering stakes wins/placing data that ends up being too long. One of the ways I have been fixing this has been some minor abbreviations. Such As: Rutabaga Days Festival Handicap, becoming the Rutabaga Fest. H. I hope that is an acceptable way to fit in stakes races. If not, I will make an appointment with Lucy to receive my beating.
On the European style of putting the day before the month, I think it interesting that the US military and a lot of US law enforcement agencies also use the DD/MM/YY format.
As for the phantom foals, the Turks didn't have the corner on that market either. I can't begin to name all the phantom foals I deleted for Smarty Jones, Storm Cat, Giants Causeway etc.
Thats enough ranting for tonight,
Best Wishes, Shergar
Shergar wrote:Another issue on the earnings cell is when I come see entries that go: $100,000 & 500,000FF & 5,000,000 pesos! Is there a correct procedure for cleaning up those messes?
I've never bothered to ask. Lucy, can we get a ruling?
For the most part, I convert every thing to US dollars if the horse is an American bred or a Foreign bred imported to the US simply because most of the updates I do are for horses that spend their production years here. On the off chance I update a foreign horse that never raced in the US/didn't retire here, I use the retiring country.
IOW, Invasor is going to be in US dollars.
Some ARG-bred who earns 100k ARG (about $33k US) and 250k UK (about $492k) before being sold to the Japanese and earning another 30m Yen (roughly $250k US) then going to stud there, I'm going to convert to Yen.. If I can remember where my damn Yen key is.
The caveat to that is I'm not going to bother with all that unless the horse is a recent retiree. I have a live currency exchange program I use so I'm not going to do a conversion on a horse that ran 2+ years ago because the total wouldn't be correct.
[quote]The caveat to that is I'm not going to bother with all that unless the horse is a recent retiree. I have a live currency exchange program I use so I'm not going to do a conversion on a horse that ran 2+ years ago because the total wouldn't be correct.
You could always say converted "as of" [/quote]
You could always say converted "as of"
[/quote]For the most part, I convert every thing to US dollars if the horse is an American bred or a Foreign bred imported to the US simply because most of the updates I do are for horses that spend their production years here. On the off chance I update a foreign horse that never raced in the US/didn't retire here, I use the retiring country.
Sounds alright to me.
I just deleted 20 some phantom progeny of belong to me. I'm guessing they were hip numbers of some yearlings two year olds for an upcoming sale. Also deleted three 2008 foals of a mare called makenomistakeaboutit. Apparently she is one busy little hussy!!
Sam: Remind me to PM you with a juicy little tidbit you might find hilarious.
All the Best, Shergar