IS THIS ALLEDGED RARE TB MARE FOR REAL (SEE PHOTO)

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IS THIS ALLEDGED RARE TB MARE FOR REAL (SEE PHOTO)

Postby Jorge » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:53 pm

IS THIS ALLEDGED RARE THOROUGHBRED MARE FOR REAL OR SOME KIND OF JOKE? THIS MARE LOOKS ALMOST SURREAL. SEE FOR YOURSELF AND PLACE YOUR OPINION.

http://agdirect.com/scripts/hrsdetl.exe?1097516682&0

Thank in advance for your opinions,

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Postby louis finochio » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:59 pm

Promised Land was a gr. Spectactular Bid is gr. now or white, this could be what those ancestors produced when the gene pool came together.
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Postby Citation. » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:03 pm

I knew that picture looked familiar and sure enough I was right. That actually is SPECTACULAR BID himself, look at some old Bloodhorse stallion directories and you will see that is the pic they used for adverticing him ( without all the black of course )

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Postby Sam » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:03 pm

It's been photoshopped.

I think they were trying to fade out the background to make the mare look more prominent in the picture (Like Taylor Made did to the pictures of Unbridled's Song in all their ads), but it backfired and gave her that weird sabino look.

I can jack the pic around, bring out the real colours in the background and she's nothing more than your standard dapple grey mare.

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Postby Sam » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:14 pm

Citation. wrote:http://www.milferfarms.com/stal1.htm

See what I mean

Thou art correct. Damn, dunno why I didn't pic up on that when I first saw it.

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Postby LSB » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:14 pm

Not only does the black look colored on, but she also isn't a Thoroughbred mare. The ad says her "secondary breed" is warmblood.

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Postby Lucy » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:56 pm

LSB wrote:Not only does the black look colored on, but she also isn't a Thoroughbred mare. The ad says her "secondary breed" is warmblood.


Elsewhere in the ad it describes her as '3/4 TB'. Bid was being bred to sporthorse mares in his last several seasons at stud.

However, no mention is made of what (if any) breed organizations she's registered with, so there's no way to verify if this horse actually exists.....and in any case, it's not very nice of them to use Bid's photo there. Surely that counts as a misrepresentation! :?

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Postby henthorn » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:02 pm

I'd be curious if such a farm even exists. The photo is fake. I notice they don't mention any other horses for sale on that site.
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Postby yukidragon » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:03 am

I read 3/4 TB in the ad.
I have 3/4TB paint myself.

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Postby Sam » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:10 am

You know, it might not be a bad idea if someone were to inform whoever owns that site that this is probably a bogus ad and why you think that way.

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Postby TrueColours » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:34 am

Great sleuthing Citation! :D

I am TRULY impressed at your skills! :wink:
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Postby Nancy T » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:41 am

I think the picture was scanned and that accounts for the wierd markings, sometimes when you try to scan a light picture the scanner does that. I bet they did not have a picture of her and used her sire. Bid was used more as a Sport horse sire after he failed as a successful race sire. They should have noted that this was not a her in the picture though!

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Postby Sysonby » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:46 am

Lucy wrote:However, no mention is made of what (if any) breed organizations she's registered with, so there's no way to verify if this horse actually exists


Warmbloods are a little different than TBs or QHs though. You can breed a Hanoverian to a Hanoverian--and NOT get a registered Hanoverian if they can't pass inspection. OTOH, a registered TB can become a Hanoverian if they are tested and perform to a certain level. The studbook isn't closed.

http://www.hannoveraner.com/english/index.htm

But as with any breed which is exploding in popularity, there are bottom feeders out there who will breed a TB to some rejected Hannoverian and call it a "Warmblood" and then jack up the price even if the Warmblood portion of the pedigree was unregistered and worth about $500. Given the fact that Milfer allowed the mare to be bred to Spectacular Bid, this may be a wonderful horse but buyer beware. If the "Warmblood portion had passed inspection by a recognized Verband or breed association, you would have seen it in the ad as it usually represents serious money.

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Postby chiggins6 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:29 am

That's interesting, Sysonby. I wasn't sure how to regard "warmblood" designations and registrations. And considering the "hoodwinking" this owner is attempting by posting the sire as though it was a pic of the (heh - 4 yo) mare, your comment "follows" a pattern, here. I wrote the owner asking for a picture or video of the mare. See if there is any response.
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