Marlon-possible buckskin?

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:54 pm

Has Marlon been mentioned before? I was researching my Holsteiner mares pedigree and came across him.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/marlon

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:58 pm

Yes, Marlon has been mentioned before. Here are the threads
where Marlon has been studied:

Marlon--son of Tamerlane--dilute TB?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... ght=marlon

Old Buckskin line?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... ght=marlon

Marlon-possible buckskin?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... ght=marlon

Non Milky creme gene (scroll down to posting number 11 by “color”)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... ght=marlon

We are up on Mare Stare!
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... ght=marlon
(go to page 2 and scroll down to postings number 6 [by “color”] and number 7 [by “spacely”])

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:42 pm

haha I guess a few times.

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:28 am

I didn't look at all the links, but it says Marlon has some holsteiner foals that are dilute

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.p ... _font=1&l=

and this one with a pic http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.p ... _font=1&l=

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.p ... _font=1&l=

HeadlessHorseman · Postby **HeadlessHorseman** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:44 pm

Its says he carries or carried the CREAM GENE

SO maybe he was.....

I didn't read them either....Sorry Jorge

Do you have any pics to share of your mare????

HH

Linda_d · Postby **Linda_d** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:38 pm

As far as is known, the only dilutes that Marlon sired came from 2 related Holsteiner mares. I think xfactor looked up a number of his get on the sporthorse database and couldn't find any evidence that Marlon sired any other dilutes from other unrelated mares.

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:15 pm

I will have to get some more pics when spring comes...
[img][img]http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m171/arcticcielo/cue1.jpg[/img][/img]

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:21 pm

I did look into Marlon, and am pretty sure that he was a dilute carrier. There are only a few registered dilute offspring, but the registry was very, very cleat that they wanted only very dark horses. So there was incentive to keep the dilutes under cover, or out of sight. Also given that there is strong selection pressure for dark shades, sooty is probably present which would mask the dilute gene.
All of this is one one the threads--lots of information about the warmblood registries, and how they differ from the TB ones.

Linda_d · Postby **Linda_d** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:38 am

xfactor fan wrote:I did look into Marlon, and am pretty sure that he was a dilute carrier. There are only a few registered dilute offspring, but the registry was very, very cleat that they wanted only very dark horses. So there was incentive to keep the dilutes under cover, or out of sight. Also given that there is strong selection pressure for dark shades, sooty is probably present which would mask the dilute gene.
All of this is one one the threads--lots of information about the warmblood registries, and how they differ from the TB ones.

I guess I misunderstood your conclusion. Sorry.

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:19 am

interesting, thanks.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:29 pm

MARLON photos:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/56 ... on-big.jpg
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/56 ... -_2big.jpg

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:04 pm

MARLON photos:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/56 ... on-big.jpg
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/56 ... -_2big.jpg

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:31 pm

I actually started, after looking at the numbers of offspring, thinking the dilute had to come in from the mare. However got enough information to change my conclusion. So depending on where you stopped reading the thread it might have looked like Marlon wasn't the carrier.

Marlon himself doesn't look like any kind of dilute. Just shows how the dilute in TB',s can hide.

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:41 am

Compared to my buckskin tb mare I had, the shading on the face makes him look buckskin. Marlon also had a light spot on his gaskin. Just from my experience the buckskins shading is different then a brown or bay.

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:40 pm

He looks very much like a seal brown buckskin (brownskin? LOL) Shame we didn't have color pic. from then or a painting.