South African TB foal

belambi · Postby **belambi** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:29 am

http://www.kznbreeders.co.za/News15092011.html

Truly · Postby **Truly** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:54 pm

Great find Belambi

Georgerz · Postby **Georgerz** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:18 pm

Any idea why or how this foal is white?

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:23 pm

I'd guess Dominant White. The sire is a solid bay. May have one white foot.

accphotography · Postby **accphotography** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:44 pm

Both the sire and dam have one tiny anklet of white. This is, 100% without a doubt, another "de novo" mutation of dominant white. How very exciting!!!

HeadlessHorseman · Postby **HeadlessHorseman** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:38 pm

That's great.....I hope he starts a new trend...

HH

belambi · Postby **belambi** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:44 am

http://www.pedigreequery.com/perakeen+x+kahal

many many common ancestors ..unusual to see a pedigree with multiple northern dancer crosses aswell as extra saturation of northern dancer damline via others.. The mare Natalma is there quite a few times

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:17 am

Halo shows up a couple of times. And Sunday Silence a Halo son has thrown a Dominant White daughter.

Wonder if it is the same mutation?

accphotography · Postby **accphotography** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:47 am

I would think that fairly unlikely. I just don't believe it could hide for that length of time in such minimal horses and then crop up this loudly. The chances of the mutation being the same (this being a new mutation that happens to be identical to Halo's) I suspect would be astronomical. I bet they may find out though as I suspect one of the DW researchers will be asking for his hair and that would likely be the first thing they'd check.

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:39 pm

It would kind of depend on if the mutation is a singular event: Confused helper RNA cuts and pastes the DNA section in backwards.

Or if it is a multi stage process. Minor mistake in coding which replicates, and creates a weak spot. Then at the "weak spot" a larger mistake is made. Which results in the full Dominant White expression.

Truly · Postby **Truly** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:20 pm

I bet I'm not the only one thinking ???????? lol

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:21 pm

Truly,

Was this about my post?

Truly · Postby **Truly** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:36 pm

Yours and ACC

Your both way too clever for me..I can cope with the basics and then it goes way over my head lol xxxx

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:17 am

Nothing mysterious about the very probable influences behind this white Thoroughbred. Two of the most powerful reiterated white-producing sources, namely, Northern Dancer and Halo are present here and both with a pair of doses. Not to abound on the friendly doses of Never Bend (significant too), Hyperion and Habitat. But since the first 1-2 are quite sufficiently powerful...

Thank you so much for informing about this new case. Back in 1996 this writer wrote about the appearance of new white cases thanks to the worldly influences of Northern Dancer and Halo. Reality is here knocking the door!

Mood Swings · Postby **Mood Swings** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:48 am

Wow! Very special, hope they get the name!